Fiber wads work just fineI have some 44 caliber wads in the mail would those work?
Fiber wads work just fineI have some 44 caliber wads in the mail would those work?
I haven’t slugged the bore, I’ve done lots of research and everyone uses .430 bullets military heeled bullets were like .429. I think the .415 number comes from an early jacketed bullet. The lands in these rifles are super deep maybe groove diameter is .415?They don’t have the correct lube, or they have no lube at all?
You really don’t want to shoot without a lube if that’s the case.
While it’s true it’s hard to blow anything up with black powder loaded correctly, loaded incorrectly all bets are off.
Without lube it will take more pressure to force the bullet down the barrel, and it will leave more lead behind, slowly restricting the diameter of the bore and causing more pressure.
It’s not clear if you actually measured the bore and grooves. You really need to measure groove depth or slug the barrel and measure that. You might find the groove diameter is much smaller than .430”. It’s easy to do and it’s much better to find out before you pull the trigger that you should of used a .415 bullet.
Old rifles are fun to shoot, they do require a bit more thought and preparation.
Thanks, was that martini made by Fanz Bokeli? I had an identical one but traded it for a Mauser guild rifle to a buddy. I’m talkin so close you might have my old rifle.I have a Martini and Vetterli in .41 swiss.i load the Lee 44 240 RN sized .430 or RCBS 44 Keith Bullet and 8g of trailboss.
accuracy is 3 MOA and its such a cheap to shoot and assemble load I've not worried about fine tuning.
shown is typical 50 yard group.
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Yup Boekel and probably is.it was originally sold by edelweiss and then ended up on gunbroker.i rebuilt the front of the stock as it was pretty thrashed.Thanks, was that martini made by Fanz Bokeli? I had an identical one but traded it for a Mauser guild rifle to a buddy. I’m talkin so close you might have my old rifle.
Ok the more I look at it I think you have my old rifle! He it was at my reloading bench.I have a Martini and Vetterli in .41 swiss.i load the Lee 44 240 RN sized .430 or RCBS 44 Keith Bullet and 8g of trailboss.
accuracy is 3 MOA and its such a cheap to shoot and assemble load I've not worried about fine tuning.
shown is typical 50 yard group.
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I had to do some custom machining on it, let’s just say if you take the firing block off you’ll be in for a surprise.Yup Boekel and probably is.it was originally sold by edelweiss and then ended up on gunbroker.i rebuilt the front of the stock as it was pretty thrashed.
I almost bought it on edelweissarms but got a 7.5 instead. And bought another 7.5 off if a buddy who got his at edelweiss.
I was glad it showed up.
it came out of Florida
Yep I traded the rifle to a guy in Florida, he said he’d probably sell it as he needed the cash.Yup Boekel and probably is.it was originally sold by edelweiss and then ended up on gunbroker.i rebuilt the front of the stock as it was pretty thrashed.
I almost bought it on edelweissarms but got a 7.5 instead. And bought another 7.5 off if a buddy who got his at edelweiss.
I was glad it showed up.
it came out of Florida
Yeah I saw your feedback from edelweiss. One of the rifles I got was completely shredded apart they weren't very honest about it. I had to rebuild the buttstock as well as make a new firing pin.Yep I traded the rifle to a guy in Florida, he said he’d probably sell it as he needed the cash.
I bought it from edelweiss months ago. If you want to know about what all I did to it just let me know. It needed a bit of machining. The stop nut on it literally was in 3 pieces when I bought it.
Did you have to do any firing pin spring work to this example? And does it eject shells properly? When I had it with my brass it didn’t wanna extract all the time.Yeah I saw your feedback from edelweiss. One of the rifles I got was completely shredded apart they weren't very honest about it. I had to rebuild the buttstock as well as make a new firing pin.
works fine.the 348 Winchester cases I made are perfect. I had to thin the rims of the 8mm Lebel on my little lathe a bit to get them to extract.Did you have to do any firing pin spring work to this example? And does it eject shells properly? When I had it with my brass it didn’t wanna extract all the time.
I was quite ashamed that the stop nut was literally shattered I might have a pic of the new one.
where is that part from?Old one![]()
Yep it’s what holds the firing pin in place. I’m glad you got it working my 8mm lebel cases were to thick at the rim and would hang up.where is that part from?
the back side thst the firing pin goes in?
I haven't yet opened the action up.
good job thanks!.Yep it’s what holds the firing pin in place. I’m glad you got it working my 8mm lebel cases were to thick at the rim and would hang up.
I had to re tap for 5/8-18 and make a stop nut from an old bolt. I bought a new stop nut and it didn’t fit at all, that’s why I had to do a lot of machine work. I re tapped the block so I didn’t have to replicate what ever the old threads on there were.
It’s set up so you can flip the firing pin and shoot the old rim fire cases too.
BSWhen dealing with black powder be sure to remember that static electricity can ignite it, as can the shearing effect of a steel powder measure. Only use brass drums or measures. Never plastic measures or funnels (static electricity).