Bix trigger fix

[Tim Singleton]

Bix are a great trigger
A step in the right direction for sure an improvement to what was available prior to their release IMO

There are always things that can be improved with anything

 

[Tod Hendricks]

Alex thank you for sharing this information. I have a post it note up above my bench right now reminding me it’s time to clean my triggers, I’ll be polishing as well.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

Alex thank you for sharing this information. I have a post it note up above my bench right now reminding me it’s time to clean my triggers, I’ll be polishing as well.

Tod its not just reliability, its accuracy. Variation in ignition will show up on target. I bet your scores go up an X or 2. Thats the other part of this I hope everyone benefits from.

 

[wkdickinson]

percentages. there's no money in a company putting time into investigating and fixing a problem that might only affect a tiny percentage of users, if they even bother to recognize a problem at all.

luckily we have gunsmiths like Alex who are not satisfied with the possibility of "only affects a tiny percentage" to suss this stuff out.

I agree, our world is much better because of guys like Alex Wheeler. However, the issue is still - why does a "premier" trigger manufacturer, ship a very expensive product that requires disassembly and something as simple as polishing by the gunsmith or end user to perform as you expect it to.

I spent the later part of my career working for a dealer who rep'd for a truly "top-tier" manufacture of VERY expensive capitol equipment. We "old-guys", had this discussion all the time - why should we (a collective "we", I didn't work on the stuff) have to fix this stuff, right from the factory, to make it perform?

I don't know the answer, nor do I think there really is one. Our understand of quality has changed drastically over, however many years. I am not singling Bix & Andy out, no doubt they make a very good product, they just happen to be in the spotlight right now. There are plenty of other examples around, and you don't have to even look very hard to find them.

 

[J.J. Coe]

Great information Alex! Thanks for sharing!

 

[Badbob]

yesterday I did a look at the internals under a 10x loupe. The machining and QC is pretty rough. Not what you'd expect for $400. I used a granite block and 2000-3000grit wet dry sandpaper followed with a strop to touch up the moving parts. Pics are a sample of two parts after using 3000grit.

Hopefully BnA or the US importer will address this.

 

[TylerFromMS]

Ordered the stuff for this on Monday and stuff got here today. Really easy, even for someone like me with just a dremel and very little machine knowledge. I swear it feels smoother now. Thanks for the fix, @Alex Wheeler!!!

 

[jackieschmidt]

I checked all four of my B&A triggers just now, and all are clean and crisp, no lag, no creep,
I’m not sure about how clean they are. I clean with a bore saver bore guide, always with a towel between the guide and the trigger area.
I guess I will take the off of my LV 6PPC and see what it looks like inside.

 

[bugman]

Called Tim at bullet central, said earlier ones had issues as you described.. but later one’s have better surface finishes and are not a problem..

All of mine are fine...

I have 5 B&A, bench rest model, triggers. Oldest is over 5 y/o, and the newest was purchased this fall. IMO, I totally disagree with what you were told. YMMV.

 

[Roeder]

Lets keep this positive, if the bashing starts it will go away.

Absolutely. I have never experienced this problem with my several B&A triggers but I welcome the information. I have absolutely experienced failures and issues with other brands of 2 ounce triggers that took more work than this to resolve.

 

[liljoe]

I had one of the very early ones that had issues. Chris took it back and gave me another. It has shot very good.

Joe

 

[Dusty Stevens]

I had one of the very early ones that had issues. Chris took it back and gave me another. It has shot very good.

Joe

Same with me. He changed them personally at the super shoot one year. They are such early versions they dont even have an acorn or patent no on them like the newer ones i have

 

[Ledd Slinger]

Aren't BA Triggers designed/made in Austria?

Oops. You’re right. I was thinking of something else. My fault.

 

[Badbob]

I also discovered mine was hanging up where the top sear engages the vertical piece (don't know the technical name) that houses the ball bearings. As I released the trigger shoe the top sear would lift and catch on that vertical piece and the trigger would not reset. So I used Alex's process of polishing those two surfaces, especially behind the "hook". So far so good.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

Is the spring that lifts the top lever in the rearmost hole?

 

[Badbob]

Is the spring that lifts the top lever in the rearmost hole?

yes sir

 

[PatMiles]

I also discovered mine was hanging up where the top sear engages the vertical piece (don't know the technical name) that houses the ball bearings. As I released the trigger shoe the top sear would lift and catch on that vertical piece and the trigger would not reset. So I used Alex's process of polishing those two surfaces, especially behind the "hook". So far so good.

A suggestion to you gents that are editing your photos in this thread, use the edit pen to show the outline of the surface of the parts you polished, such as the blue in the photo below. Blue line is just showing my suggestion, I did no polishing on those parts.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

@jcline

 

[martin22250]

I just did what alex suggested on the bix n Andy trigger. I just got a new rail gun this winter and put a new bix on it. When shooting it today i was having delay on firing every now and then. When I took it apart it was clean. I could tell by pushing down on the top lever something was hanging it up some and it was clicking. I polished the 2 spots a touch on my belt sander with a leather belt and white rouge. Works perfect. Thanks Alex for the tip. My older bix never had any issue

 

[Alex Wheeler]

Glad it helped you out