Best way to trap

[msinc]

You're killing me! I think I just pissed my pants reading this.

Honestly it is a true story...happened probably 5 or 6 years ago in southern Maryland. I think the deal was that they actually covered the hole they dumped the gas down but the woodchuck had two holes and when they backed away and lit it off they just happened to go towards the "other hole" that the damn thing ran out of. Both guys were right there and he climbed up the ones leg. Both of them were flown out and nearly died. They spent months in the burn center. It is funny, but it's kinda not because they got hurt so bad over a stupid woodchuck. Not too much farming left around here, since the big tobacco buyout soybeans are the number one crop. You can see fields that have large round circles ate right down to the bare dirt with a hole right in the middle...it's like, gee...who cant guess what caused that??
We are lucky that as many as there are around here none of our horses have ever stepped in a hole and broken a leg. If that goes down, wifey will have me out there shoving a Bangalor torpedo down the hole!!!!

 

[rogn]

Anyone who owns a boat( a boat is the mechanical devise that replaces horses for some folks) usually has a pack or 2 of expired flares. Find both entrances to the chucks abode and close them off with a metal plate , sturdy board or rock. Then take one of the expired flares- they function 95% of the time- light it and pitch it down one of the holes and cover it back up. The flares are 2-3 times more effective than the rodent bombs, they generate more gas and fill the burrow faster. Probably wont see the chuck as the sulfur dioxide formed is really effective. Probably wont have a flamer attacking you.

 

[Rustytigwire]

Oklahoma pocket gophers are immune to flares. I have had returns in less than an hour. Use several extra flares!
Ground hogs probly tough enough to smoke one after dinner!

 

[alinwa]

OK, I LOVE me some conibears..... I trapped my tuition thru gunsmithing school back in the 80's...... but I got's ta' ask, if you just lay a 330 over the hole won't it just jump?

 

[timeout]

OK, I LOVE me some conibears..... I trapped my tuition thru gunsmithing school back in the 80's...... but I got's ta' ask, if you just lay a 330 over the hole won't it just jump?

Yes it will. That is not the proper technique.
Also, in my state it is unlawful to set a 330 on dry ground. They must be at least 1/2 submerged in water. Check your regulations. Then we need to address the fact that a 330 is a poor choice with regards to size for trapping ground hogs. A 160 is generally the correct choice with an occasional is of 220's.

 

[Milo 2.0]

Gas bombs??? might be the same rig....the local John Deere dealer used to sell this set up with a plate you put over the hole and fill it with propane to suffocate the woodchuck. We had some local farmers years ago dump gasoline down the hole {the propane rig was too expensive for these guys} and get back and strike a match. They apparently didn't get back far enough, the saturated chuck comes out of the hole in the form of a fireball and climbs up one guys leg. The other one tries to "put out the fire" and they both nearly died. They at least did in fact kill the hog.

You brought back memories, I got in on some this action with red fox. Usually started with 2 half pissed up uncles, more canned Budweiser with the strip away tops, a 5 gal gas can, a 12 gauge double barrel I doubt either could hit with, and 10 yr old me, the fire crew with a couple wet gunny sacks. I always wanted to see one come out doing the Richard pryor flaming marathon, but it never happened.
In retrospect, we would have burned the whole pasture, neighboring wheat fields and whatnot for an animal that probably never did have a chicken dinner on us.

 

[earlcurtis67]

Back in the day when it was legal we would catch gopher turtles by runing a 8-10’length of garden hose down the hole and using a funnel pour some gasoline down to the bottom of the hole, what ever was in the hole is gonna come out, turtle, rattlesnake, skunk. I dont know how deep or windey a ground hog hole is but it might be worth trying. E

 

[dgeesaman]

We are lucky that as many as there are around here none of our horses have ever stepped in a hole and broken a leg. If that goes down, wifey will have me out there shoving a Bangalor torpedo down the hole!!!!

We have horses and I too contend with a few groundhogs every year.

There are a variety of methods that work. Sunday evening it was a 17hmr at 100y from a sitting position. (Would have been an easy shot if the scope glass wasn’t fogged from coming out into the warm air).

I have a .30 airgun that is really effective out to 75y. I should have that back from the tuner any day now. It’s bulky and far too expensive to have for pest control but it’s very quiet and a good shooting exercise.

I have had some success using a havahart live trap, especially when it’s hot and dry and your bait is succulent. I grab whatever is handy - cabbage, lettuce, cantaloupe, strawberries, peas... Ive sometimes stopped at the salad bar for stuff. but trapping doesn’t always work. I’ve not tried the flare truck but it’s interesting because it’s not explosive and leaves the dead critter in the hole.

 

[blackwidowp61]

My brother-in-law's wife was into goats. Had a real problem with rats taking nips out of goats, so I volunteered to be the rat patrol. They wouldn't allow anything that was combustible, poisonous or could possibly bounce around in the barn. My answer was an old single-shot .410. Worked like a charm! Never had a complaint from the goats or the in-laws. Never ran out of targets either.

 

[alinwa]

Bats in the haymow.....12ga loaded with field corn.....THOSE were good days

 

[alinwa]

rodenator

 

[ClassCat]

Don't over think this. Use STRYCHINE

 

[alinwa]

Don't over think this. Use STRYCHINE

If strychnine worked on PNW moles I'd have 55 gallon DRUMS of the stuff........

 

[msinc]

Don't over think this. Use STRYCHINE

I'd love to try it and not just on woodchucks......and just where exactly does one obtain Strychnine??????

 

[ClassCat]

I'd love to try it and not just on woodchucks......and just where exactly does one obtain Strychnine??????

https://www.solutionsstores.com/gopher-bait-50-strychnine
Some stock shops have it. Mix it with Meow mix, and if you have dogs and cats it will do them in also. BE CAREFUL !

 

[JRS]

I'd love to try it and not just on woodchucks......and just where exactly does one obtain Strychnine??????

IIRC, without the proper licensing and documentation, you can't legally purchase it. There is some diluted feed available, but you have to be careful with it. Depending upon where you live, using poison might be illegal.

 

[msinc]

IIRC, without the proper licensing and documentation, you can't legally purchase it. There is some diluted feed available, but you have to be careful with it. Depending upon where you live, using poison might be illegal.

Yeah, I really don't think anyone can buy the stuff that kills you in a couple seconds...straight, raw, pure strychnine, potassium cyanide, prussic acid, etc. I know it exists because James Bond used it several times. My post was more in jest, it's like when somebody posts about getting lead out of a barrel and inevitably somebody repeats the old "scrub it right on out quick and easy with mercury" story.......right, and I'll just run on down that good ol' Mercury-Deadly Poison Store and buy me a couple gallons.
I will say this, if the diluted stuff will kill a dog it is/has got to be terrible...a dog is one very hard animal to poison to death. I've seen many try and all have failed. We used to have a pretty dangerous pack of feral dogs in this area about 20 years ago. They went around senselessly killing goats, sheep and hogs. Local farmers tried everything. The only thing that proved successful was lead poisoning...injected at about 3000 fps. The old antifreeze B.S. is a joke, right up there with tomato juice for skunk spray.

 

[timeout]

Yeah, I really don't think anyone can buy the stuff that kills you in a couple seconds...straight, raw, pure strychnine, potassium cyanide, prussic acid, etc. I know it exists because James Bond used it several times. My post was more in jest, it's like when somebody posts about getting lead out of a barrel and inevitably somebody repeats the old "scrub it right on out quick and easy with mercury" story.......right, and I'll just run on down that good ol' Mercury-Deadly Poison Store and buy me a couple gallons.
I will say this, if the diluted stuff will kill a dog it is/has got to be terrible...a dog is one very hard animal to poison to death. I've seen many try and all have failed. We used to have a pretty dangerous pack of feral dogs in this area about 20 years ago. They went around senselessly killing goats, sheep and hogs. Local farmers tried everything. The only thing that proved successful was lead poisoning...injected at about 3000 fps. The old antifreeze B.S. is a joke, right up there with tomato juice for skunk spray.

Antifreeze will kill a dog and a human. It used to have a sweet taste and is now regulated to have a bittering agent. Although it isn't commonly used like it once was, thimet will kill about anything. Less than a teaspoon full will kill a cow. Golden Malrin fly bait in soda pop has been used by people to kill raccoons. It will kill anything that drinks it and has been banned here as a mixture. Setting that out on your own property will result in prosecution.

 

[msinc]

Antifreeze will kill a dog and a human. It used to have a sweet taste and is now regulated to have a bittering agent. Although it isn't commonly used like it once was, thimet will kill about anything. Less than a teaspoon full will kill a cow. Golden Malrin fly bait in soda pop has been used by people to kill raccoons. It will kill anything that drinks it and has been banned here as a mixture. Setting that out on your own property will result in prosecution.

I had two neighbors that had a big feud over the one morons dog that constantly ran loose. I once saw this dog drink {no B.S.} at least a full quart of anti freeze. It was mixed with some hamburger meat. This was back when it still smelled and tasted sweet. The dog didn't even get sick. He then tried to poison it with Chlordane, a now banned tobacco plant spray for insects. Chlordane was banned because it was supposed to be such a deadly chemical. Tobacco farmers had to get a special permit to obtain and use it. It was very high concentrated and contained, if I remember right 52% pure raw liquid nicotine. Nicotine is supposed to be this extremely deadly poison in pure liquid form.
Another batch of hamburger and chlordane, except this time to get the dog to ingest it he put it in a capsule. The dog ate it and he thought surely this time the dog was gone...three days later the owner was telling others that "he didn't know what happened to the dog, he suddenly got sick and slept for two days straight"...he laid around for a few more, but the dog survived. Well, long enough to attack a third neighbor and end up getting shot by the police.
I have had coon hounds get bit multiple times by copperheads and timber rattlers, I have seen people feed them glass in meat, every kind of supposed poison that can be obtained short of cyanide and they always survive.
I am aware of Golden Malrin fly bait and I know it will kill a raccoon, etc. It is illegal to set out poison around here but many people still do it. I have a buddy whose dog ate some one night and he got sick but even that didn't kill him. I would never try it, but my experience has been that a dog is next to impossible to poison. From what I have witnessed over the years, all the constantly repeated "recipes" we all know and love to pass on just do not work. I wouldn't recommend testing any of them on your kids, but your dogs are safe.
If some one sets out antifreeze, I don't care what brand or kind it is and the dog that drinks it dies....he either had heartworms or a heart attack.

 

[JRS]

I had two neighbors that had a big feud over the one morons dog that constantly ran loose. I once saw this dog drink {no B.S.} at least a full quart of anti freeze. It was mixed with some hamburger meat. This was back when it still smelled and tasted sweet. The dog didn't even get sick. He then tried to poison it with Chlordane, a now banned tobacco plant spray for insects. Chlordane was banned because it was supposed to be such a deadly chemical. Tobacco farmers had to get a special permit to obtain and use it. It was very high concentrated and contained, if I remember right 52% pure raw liquid nicotine. Nicotine is supposed to be this extremely deadly poison in pure liquid form.
Another batch of hamburger and chlordane, except this time to get the dog to ingest it he put it in a capsule. The dog ate it and he thought surely this time the dog was gone...three days later the owner was telling others that "he didn't know what happened to the dog, he suddenly got sick and slept for two days straight"...he laid around for a few more, but the dog survived. Well, long enough to attack a third neighbor and end up getting shot by the police.
I have had coon hounds get bit multiple times by copperheads and timber rattlers, I have seen people feed them glass in meat, every kind of supposed poison that can be obtained short of cyanide and they always survive.
I am aware of Golden Malrin fly bait and I know it will kill a raccoon, etc. It is illegal to set out poison around here but many people still do it. I have a buddy whose dog ate some one night and he got sick but even that didn't kill him. I would never try it, but my experience has been that a dog is next to impossible to poison. From what I have witnessed over the years, all the constantly repeated "recipes" we all know and love to pass on just do not work. I wouldn't recommend testing any of them on your kids, but your dogs are safe.

Sounds about right. My dogs have eaten a few of my neighbors chickens, yet have not gotten sick nor died from salmonella. Hell.. I feed them raw chicken and raw beef every day.