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Best Way to Find Bullet Touch in Chamber?

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Using the Wheeler method - if the bolt clicks at the top when extracting a round the bullet is touching the lands, even if it doesn't leave a mark. ? It's hard to tell how much jam I have reading the lil square marks on the oJ. ?
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Don
 
In Wheeler's video demonstrating the method, he point out that at some point the click is barely audible and then there is the point where it is barely felt. When it is no longer felt, that is just short of the T.P.
By the time engraving is seen on a bullet, you're already a ways past Touch Point.
 
Before I heard of the Wheeler method, I burnished the bullet with some fine steel wool to make the touch marks stand out and be easily seen with a magnifying glass. I only did this when working up a load, so it was only a starting point. Then I let the target tell me in or out.
 
In Wheeler's video demonstrating the method, he point out that at some point the click is barely audible and then there is the point where it is barely felt. When it is no longer felt, that is just short of the T.P.
By the time engraving is seen on a bullet, you're already a ways past Touch Point.
Makes sense, I guess I missed that. TY Don
 
Before I heard of the Wheeler method, I burnished the bullet with some fine steel wool to make the touch marks stand out and be easily seen with a magnifying glass. I only did this when working up a load, so it was only a starting point. Then I let the target tell me in or out.
Tony Boyer describes this method in his book, and I find it quite accurate and repeatable.
 
Before I heard of the Wheeler method, I burnished the bullet with some fine steel wool to make the touch marks stand out and be easily seen with a magnifying glass. I only did this when working up a load, so it was only a starting point. Then I let the target tell me in or out.
I feel that either method will work and whatever method is used is just a starting point that can be used as a reference.
The Wheeler method seems to be used by many and appears to be repeatable. The results will usually be very close, on the same gun, when someone else does it also. Other methods seem to introduce more variables, and even by the same person.

You must remove the firing pin, and ejector if it has one.
 
In Wheeler's video demonstrating the method, he point out that at some point the click is barely audible and then there is the point where it is barely felt. When it is no longer felt, that is just short of the T.P.
By the time engraving is seen on a bullet, you're already a ways past Touch Point.
Please post the link for those who haven’t seen the video, or for those like me who want to watch it again.
 
When I find the Wheeler touch point, I don't even try to measure the marks
on the bullet. I use the seater die setting as a repeatable reference point. Chances
are that won't be your chosen setting anyway.

From this initial setting the bullet can be moved in either direction----until the final
setting is determined.

The target tells me when I'm good and the die setting tells me how to get back.

I've used this method for years and don't claim it to be best but its works for me.

A. Weldy
 

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