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Best Powder for 45acp 230 grain hollow point

9mmAnimal

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I have accurate #5 ,titegroup and unique want the best powder for a self defense load 230 grain hollow point recommendations please
 
ELR LVR said:
Afraid the intruder is gonna sue for shooting him harder?
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To be clear it's not the intruder that is the problem, its the District Attorney that uses uses the hand loading to show that you are a crazy, gun happy, trigger happy person trying to load more lethal ammunition. He will use it to sway those 12 people in the jury box. Tie that in with what he finds in your forum post and who knows how he may twist it.
 
Doom said:
To be clear it's not the intruder that is the problem, its the District Attorney that uses uses the hand loading to show that you are a crazy, gun happy, trigger happy person trying to load more lethal ammunition. He will use it to sway those 12 people in the jury box. Tie that in with what he finds in your forum post and who knows how he may twist it.
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Then use your reduced target loads so you can say you WERE trying to hit him “softer”! :cool:
I use factory ammo in my carry gun for one reason! They always go boom. No matter how carefully I reload, one in a thousand is a dud.
 
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Doom said:
To be clear it's not the intruder that is the problem, its the District Attorney that uses uses the hand loading to show that you are a crazy, gun happy, trigger happy person trying to load more lethal ammunition. He will use it to sway those 12 people in the jury box. Tie that in with what he finds in your forum post and who knows how he may twist it.
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Unfortunately this is the truth of it especially in full blown communist states like Washington!… once you have defended your life from a lethal threat you then have to defend yourself to stay outta prison. I have been packing a 10mm, just watched a Hickock 45 video that covered that exact content!… the prosecutor will show you was packing a super killer!… why?…and your screwed!
Wayne
 
Doom said:
To be clear it's not the intruder that is the problem, its the District Attorney that uses uses the hand loading to show that you are a crazy, gun happy, trigger happy person trying to load more lethal ammunition. He will use it to sway those 12 people in the jury box. Tie that in with what he finds in your forum post and who knows how he may twist it.
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LOL, can you kindly show me a case where this has happened?
By the same reasoning you should only use a 22 short because if you shoot an intruder with a 44 mag the prosecutor can say you shot the intruder with
too big a gun.

The only real reason not to use handloads is reliability.
 
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whatsupdoc said:
LOL, can you kindly show me a case where this has happened?
By the same reasoning you should only use a 22 short because if you shoot an intruder with a 44 mag the prosecutor can say you shot the intruder with
too big a gun.

The only real reason not to use handloads is reliability.
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Do a little research, Massad Ayoob recounted an issue where the person prosecuted had made up a "light load" for a .357 Python. His wife put the gun to her head, he tried to prevent her from shooting herself, Bang!
The prosecutor insisted that there was not enough powder on her for it to have happened that way. Yes, he was charged with murder.
 
On point: I have been using the A powders more because of how well they meter in my thrower. I like W231, CFEPistol and Longshot for the same reason,
 
Doom said:
To be clear it's not the intruder that is the problem, its the District Attorney that uses uses the hand loading to show that you are a crazy, gun happy, trigger happy person trying to load more lethal ammunition. He will use it to sway those 12 people in the jury box. Tie that in with what he finds in your forum post and who knows how he may twist it.
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Right on. Thats the reason I researched and in my CCW/self defense guns use only the same ammo the FBI uses. At the time of my research it was Speer Lawman I believe.
 
The best argument for avoiding handloads for self-defense is should you get into an encounter outside the home. Things like distance of powder residue, penetration testing, etc has already been done by forensic labs to establish a baseline for ammunition used by major agencies and institutions. Should the facts of the case be in question, it can be expensive and complicated to establish this data for your handload.
 
Fuj said:
LOL......Yeah after unloaded my 12 gauge on him first.....All
My .45 ACP ammo from 185gr thru 230gr hardball gets 231.
Really miss that 452AA !!
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WST is almost exactly the same but modern. But I guess you do need to add WSF to cover all the bases.
 
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