That is one of the best game killing bullet's made. 600 yards is pushing it for that bullet though. The weight and BC is against you. I would say maybe good till 4 or 5 hundred yards. The wind will factor in and so will bullet drop and energy. A heavier high BC bullet would be better for 500 and out. MattThe reason I choose the 85 GK is that I have 23,000 of them.
Best long range 6mm choice
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Hammer47
I suffer fools poorly.
243 Sammi reamer. R15 powder or R16/R17 powder. 26" barrel 1-10 to 1-8 twist. Should be able to get 3300-3500 FPS.
That is some flat shooting. Don't pay attention to the nay sayers. I bet you could get a load that will shoot better than you can shoot at 600 yards. And you could take your rifle hunting and shoot a deer or a groundhog too!!!
Send me a couple thousands of those GKs and I will work up some loads in my new 243 barrels
Actually I am selling those bullets for $120 per 500 shipped. Help yourself.
Hammer47
I suffer fools poorly.
Doesn't seem like anyone else has a problem with it...shove up azz eh? You just made the ignore list.
Hammer47
I suffer fools poorly.
They are quite temp sensitive. Did all my load development in the morning. Come midday I was blowing primers. H414 watch out! Edit: that was with my 243 and 80 blitz. It's shot out now and I'm going 6br with the heavies. I think 600, piece of cake. Mike
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Seems a little brash for someone asking for help... This may get me on the "ignore list" as well but I won't loose any sleep over it. Just food for thought:
LOTS of guys here are looking for the BEST they can get. Some shoot competitive, are competitive, or just want to be highly successful; no matter the cost, no matter the route. So when a guy starts a post with I want the "BEST LONG RANGE 6mm CHOICE"- it is kind of expected to receive answers of the BEST equipment suggestions. The 85gr GKHP (while one of my favorite bullets) is FAR from the "BEST" beyond 300 yards (which is far from "long range").
I think retired was correct saying your title didn't match your post. I an totally understand wanting to use a bullet you have, but that's like saying you want to build a drag car & use the Toyota Camry motor you already have in the basement. You'll never get the "best" out of it unless your comparing MPG to the other top fuel dragsters...
An idea: you may want to put a few thousand of those 85's up for sale on the classifieds here & and take the profits to buy some of the high BC, VLD type bullets if you really want the "BEST". If you are satisfied with OK, you can work with what you got but don't be a dick about it to someone trying to help... I too was a little thrown by you oxymoronic statement about "max" from "least". Also stated "best bc" and then said you already had a bullet (that has a lower bc). Please take no offense but it's kind of confusing to the reader...
This further further muddies the waters and I think is likely what retired was referencing. If your looking for less powder burn than the 6x45 cartridge it's not going to correlate much to "Long Range" (especially the "Best Long Range"). If you have an 8 twist 6BR your likely sitting on the best of powder burn/velocity your going to get. A more streamline bullet in it will be an easier route (going "Long Range") than building a new gun (unless you build new gun in 6BR). There are no free rides. More velocity will take more powder, it's just physics.
Make sure the twist rate is correct for the bullet you want to use. After that everything is pretty much whatever floats your boat. I have 2 Ruger #1s in 6 mm Remington. One set for the 87 gr. Hornady (my mid range gun -- 500 yards or so) and the other for the 105 gr. Hornady (my long range - thousand yard gun). The only drawback is Lapua does not make brass for that cartridge. But I still get sub m.o.a. in both.
If you value first round hits then try to settle on the least temp sensitive powders.
My vote is 6x47l. Push the case and it laughs at higher pressures, or slow the FPS down and enjoy long brass life. I use warm loads and I'm on 36 or so firings. I do cheat by using custom dies matched to my reamer, and I anneal frequently.
Long barrel and long freebore, you might get 3600 fps or more, I got 3500+ with 95 SMK/R17, just pointing out the speeds this small cartridge will spit out. I wouldn't recommend doing it because of wear but I didn't have a sticky bolt yet.
It's a very accurate cartridge but not as accurate as the BR cases. I'm a steel shooter so the smallest vertical isn't imperative, what makes the biggest difference for us is less wind drift, a 105 hybrid at 3172 fps is impressive in that regard.
So you use less powder than the normal sized 6mm's but more than the BR's. It's a well balanced long range performer considering it's combined attributes.
Hammer47
I suffer fools poorly.
Sure just PM me.
WyleWD
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I've used both WW760 & H414 for a long time in 17Rem, 22-250, 243, and 220Swift. Only time I ever had an issue with it being temp sensitive was when it got to be 105* while out prairie dog shooting. Both are good stuff. Some say use a magnum primer, but I never heard or read that before till the internet became available. I still don't. JME, YMMV. WD
No doubt its a great bullet (I've killed a pile of stuff from tweety birds to deer with that bullet), but it slows quickly and at longer ranges the conditions will effect it much more than another bullet that is more streamline (there are stuff out there now in 6mm that has nearly twice the wind cheating *mojo magic*). A great shooter that can read the wind perfect can do just as well. But a little puff, or wind direction change at the last minute will move that bullet MUCH more (talking relative to -varmint size- targets) than specialty LR bullets.
Also, killing MANY varmints out to 1200 yards... that's some dang fine shooting. Even starting at 3400 fps that bullet is transonic right around 1000 yards. Bet those shots get even more tricky in the 1100-1200 range. Impressive!
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Hammer47
I suffer fools poorly.
Fellas, I fully realize there are MANY bullets superior to this 85 but the reason for making this my choice is the fact that I have more than a lifetime supply. Why did I buy so many? Well Granny used to say "WHEN YOU GET A HUNCH... BET A BUNCH" and she was one wise old bird.
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Yes it is impressive, as are his 1000 yard records. There may be better options but it’s hard to argue with his proven success on many levels. As with my abilities, I will stick with the 105 class bullets.
mikegaiz
Stay frosty, my friend.
I am pretty good at long shooting distances. I Hate defending my comments, but...........
http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2016/08/amazing-2-856-10-shot-group-at-1000-yards/
mikegaiz
Stay frosty, my friend.
Thanks for the positive comment. I agree 105 are much better, but the thread was talking about shooting what he had, so I was giving supportive data.
group therapy
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just curious, how good of a deal did you get on that manyThe reason I choose the 85 GK is that I have 23,000 of them.
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