best cartridge up to 400 yards

[Raythemanroe]

You probably won't see a 300 wsm at the super shoot, but at a 1000 yards a .308 win gives up 17" to a .243 pushing hybrids at a average speed.. My guess is a .30 br gives up much much more and your wind reading skills better be perfect.. The six BR family of bullets with a 8 twist or 7.5 don't give up much on either end of the spectrum (except barrel life).. You need to way your interests




Ray

 

[Immike]

Ray is right , a fast 6mm does a lot of damage out there.

 

[r44astro]

Not sure out to 400 but out to 300 6PPC is very accurate, and .250 moa is very realistic if you learn how tune. But of course I am referring to range with wind flags.
Bill Greene

 

[Raythemanroe]

How much does a 30br or ppc give up 400 yards and beyond? I bet it is much more then what a 6 br family of cartridges gives up @ 100-200.. The OP was on the fence about factory vs custom guns and I think that would have to weigh in there also..

I believe the largest hurdle in this debate is what the OP is gonna end up shooting primarily

Ray

 

[martin155]

I´ll probably choose 223 Rem for starters so I can buy factory rifle with relatively cheap ammo and good barrel life, then I´ll see what next. But if I decide to buy custom gun I´d want something for mid to long range shooting so 6mm or 6.5mm caliber would be supposedly better.

 

[Raythemanroe]

How much does a 30br or ppc give up 400 yards and beyond? I bet it is much more then what a 6 br family of cartridges gives up @ 100-200

You're entitled to your opinion. I can tell you from score match results that the 6mm just can't match the 30's unless the wind is howling. At the Bud Pryor Memorial IBS match 100-200-300 with around 40 competitors there was ONE 6mm and all the rest 30's. Groundhog matches at 200-300-400 and the top six are all 30's. First 6 Dasher was 7th place and the chap shooting it is very, very good. Results don't lie.

I think your 100% correct, my thought is how many 30br's place 7th in 1k BR? My suggestion was for an OP that hasn't decided on a set competition or madness..



Ray

 

[Raythemanroe]

Mid to long range smells like a Dasher (BR family), 6.5x47, 284 Shehane, 300 WSM to me.



Ray

 

[stinnett1981]

I´ll probably choose 223 Rem for starters so I can buy factory rifle with relatively cheap ammo and good barrel life, then I´ll see what next. But if I decide to buy custom gun I´d want something for mid to long range shooting so 6mm or 6.5mm caliber would be supposedly better.

You will LOVE the .223! Its one of my favorite rifles to shoot. I have a 8 twist Bartlein barrel finished at 23" and I shoot 75 grain Amax bullets out to 600 yards with great accuracy. I enjoy shooting my .223 the most out of all my rifles! Try out the Federal Gold Medal Match ammo first.

Here is the rifle. Just a trued Remington 700 SA, Manners T4 stock, Bartlein 5r 8 twist barrel finished @ 23", Jewell trigger and topped with a F1 Nightforce 3.5-15 MLR2.0

5 shot group @ 100 yards

10 shot group @ 200 yards

 

[stinnett1981]

Also you will just love how its quiet and has very little kick. The .223 is just a charm to shoot!

 

[martin155]

Thanks for help guys .

 

[william5409]

nice informations