best cartridge up to 400 yards
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martin155 said:
There is no such cartridge. Wind effects EVERY bullet>>>some more than others BUT ALL get effected. If you want excellent barrel life, great accuracy and as little wind deflection as possible, I would opt for a 6.5 x 47, throated so you could use 140 class bullets. That means "about" a .170 freebore. There are many more cartridges that would have less wind drift, however, your barrel life is going to go down.
It is supposed to be for target shooting. It will be my first rifle so I would like to shoot as much as I want. After a few burn out barrels I will let it rechambered for more accurate and barrel demanding cartridge.
Could I shoot under 0.25 MOA with some of the suggested cartridges (at least around 110 yards)?
Could I shoot under 0.25 MOA with some of the suggested cartridges (at least around 110 yards)?
jds holler
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While any of the above mentioned cartridges are capable of that level of accuracy, it depends on many factors.
Realize that many of the guys who speak so casually about .25 MOA accuracy, can't usually casually go out and do it. :
This does seem to be the right forum to learn how though. That's why I'm here. jd
Realize that many of the guys who speak so casually about .25 MOA accuracy, can't usually casually go out and do it. :
This does seem to be the right forum to learn how though. That's why I'm here. jd
Learn with a 6BR. Shoot .25 MOA. Search for something better under 600 yards. Spend a lot of money chasing better accuracy. The 6BR will be waiting for your return.martin155 said:
XTR
F-TR obssessed shooting junkie
BOB LEE SWAGGER said:
You are starting down a long road, ¼ MOA is surely achievable, but the longer the range the more the wind will make that run sideways. Bigger chambers, faster bullets can try to combat it, but you have to be able to read wind if you want to keep the shots in the middle.
Are you planning to shoot Bench Rest or something else? Most shooting disciplines require some level of specialized skill and equipment. BR and F class look alike in some ways, but the skills to compete in them are not necessarily the same.
As for windage and barrel life, there is no free lunch. The choices are: burn a lot of powder, make heavy bullet go fast, get less wind drift, burn barrel; or, burn less powder, bullet go not as fast or shoot lighter bullet, get more wind drift, damage barrel less.
If you are just learning and target practicing, get a 308 or a 223 bolt gun, both will last 3000 rounds for most people, then learn to load, learn about different types of competition and figure out what you want to do and get the right tools for that purpose.
FWIW, I've shot a lot of 5 and 10 shot groups load testing, mostly at 300 and 600 yards, and very few have ever been true ¼ MOA groups. Lots of them have been under ¼ vertical but it's a rare group of holes that all are also under ¼ MOA wide.
6 Br with 8T or faster barrel 26+ inches. FB that you can seat 105 bullets forward of the donut. Larry
Raythemanroe
Bullet Whisperer
You looking to buy a factory gun? First rifle, So reloading is probably questionable.. F-Class gets your goat, start out with a .223 or .308.. 6BR will compete in about any type of competition, I would say a .284
Ray
Ray
I wonder how a 7BR or 7x47 would do in competition at 400 yards. It would seem to offer all you could ask for.
I completely understand though, that the winner at that yardage is the guy who screws up least...much more so than the gun, or ballistic co-efficient of the bullet. I firmly believe that in a perfect world, the short range br cartridges would be the best choice at that distance...but the world ain't perfect, more often than not anyway. A close 2nd would be a 6br or any one of it's variants.
I completely understand though, that the winner at that yardage is the guy who screws up least...much more so than the gun, or ballistic co-efficient of the bullet. I firmly believe that in a perfect world, the short range br cartridges would be the best choice at that distance...but the world ain't perfect, more often than not anyway. A close 2nd would be a 6br or any one of it's variants.
XTR
F-TR obssessed shooting junkie
martin155 said:
If you want to shoot F class F-TR is limited to 223 and 308, as opposed to F-Open where any cchambering up to 35 cal is permitted.
If you are shooting 600 yards or less (mid range) a good 223 bolt gun running 90s (or 80s) gives up nothing to the 308s except recoil, and reloading costs. If you end up getting into long range then the 308 is de rigueur.
Why not go the local competition that you would most regularly attend, and find out what the winners are shooting? Most shooters are VERY happy to help a noob. Maybe with more help than you really want. 
It is a huge (but common) mistake to handicap yourself with equipment that isn't competitive. A used competition rifle will cost no more than a new factory rifle, will hold its value better, and will teach you how to load and read the wind.
It is a huge (but common) mistake to handicap yourself with equipment that isn't competitive. A used competition rifle will cost no more than a new factory rifle, will hold its value better, and will teach you how to load and read the wind.
XTR
F-TR obssessed shooting junkie
Gabe22BR said:
Tell you what, I'll wager my rifle against your 6.5 Grendel with an 18" barrel at 600 and 1000, 20 shots for record on an F class target. I shoot my TR rig, you shoot the 18" Grendel
I can do Oak Ridge just about any day, I'll be in StL on July Second or you can show up at the TN state championships in either Tullahoma or Memphis
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