What velocity should I expect with Berger 200 hybrids in 30" 1:10 308 barrel.
Trying to compare it to the 185s as far as wind drift
Thanks
Trying to compare it to the 185s as far as wind drift
Thanks
Berger 200 hybrid question
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Down South
FTR Junkie
2650 give or take
Andrew, [br]
Loaded to the same pressure in the same cartridge, the higher B.C. bullet will always produce less wind drift. It may also introduce other factors that make it undesirable but the wind drift will be less.
Loaded to the same pressure in the same cartridge, the higher B.C. bullet will always produce less wind drift. It may also introduce other factors that make it undesirable but the wind drift will be less.
Yea, like dropping more points to vertical than you do wind :-\Steve Blair said:
Heard the 200s aren't that bad on recoil?
I could use about 0.6 less wind drift
I could use about 0.6 less wind drift
[br]savageshooter86 said:Heard the 200s aren't that bad on recoil?
I could use about 0.6 less wind drift
A lot depends upon your setup and how well you can adapt. My rule of thumb is to use the highest B.C. bullet that I can dependably shoot well. Any of the heavy Berger Hybrid bullets will shoot accurately but that is only part of the equation. Try the heavier bullets and experiment with your shooting style. If you can make it work, reduced wind drift is a good thing.
Down South
FTR Junkie
savageshooter86 said:Heard the 200s aren't that bad on recoil?
I could use about 0.6 less wind drift
They definately have a little more recoil than the lighter bullets but if you can handle it on the bipod and control the vertical they are worth it.
Why would you go from 185 to 200, why not go to the 210's , only a question , are the 210's not a higher bc? If you are going to have extra recoil anyway.
[br]Hillhunter said:
The 200 Hybrid and 210 LRBT have the same G7 B.C. The G1 B.C. is irrelevant. The 200 will have slightly less recoil. That said; I've shot a lot of 210 LRBT and posted some good scores. Either one would be a reasonable choice.
Quote from: Hillhunter on Today at 03:03 PM
Why would you go from 185 to 200, why not go to the 210's , only a question , are the 210's not a higher bc? If you are going to have extra recoil anyway.
The 200 Hybrid and 210 LRBT have the same G7 B.C. The G1 B.C. is irrelevant. The 200 will have slightly less recoil. That said; I've shot a lot of 210 LRBT and posted some good scores. Either one would be a reasonable choice.
Not to hijack this members posts but , would one be better off then with the 200's as you would have similar accuracy without the increased recoil?
Why would you go from 185 to 200, why not go to the 210's , only a question , are the 210's not a higher bc? If you are going to have extra recoil anyway.
The 200 Hybrid and 210 LRBT have the same G7 B.C. The G1 B.C. is irrelevant. The 200 will have slightly less recoil. That said; I've shot a lot of 210 LRBT and posted some good scores. Either one would be a reasonable choice.
Not to hijack this members posts but , would one be better off then with the 200's as you would have similar accuracy without the increased recoil?
[br]Hillhunter said:
Both are excellent bullets and the incremental recoil difference would be small. It would probably be worth trying both. And, if the 210 is not a problem, try the 215, too.
Jdne5b
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What is the range of Varget to test on the 200s? Hodgdon's data isnt much use to me since I'm loading much longer than 2.7.
I shot some 185s and 200s next to each other yesterday, and didnt notice much, if any recoil difference. Might have been the heavy sweatshirt I had on, but I was suprised in the lack of difference.
I shot some 185s and 200s next to each other yesterday, and didnt notice much, if any recoil difference. Might have been the heavy sweatshirt I had on, but I was suprised in the lack of difference.
Most running Varget with this combo?
savageshooter86,
30 inch barrel will allow you to experiment with a slower powder. This can result in less barrel wear at the throat and higher velocity. Varget is a pretty standard "go to" powder but you may want to try H4350 , vht-n150 too. I use N-550 in my Palma rifle and get 3035 fps with the 155 grain bullets. I know you are using the 200 grain but the potential is there. Make up a dummy round to the lands and go for it.
ALWAYS USE THE LOWEST POWDER CHARGE LISTED FOR YOUR BULLET/CARTRIDGE /POWDER COMBINATION WHEN FINDING YOUR SWEET SPOT SEATING DEPTH. Being that it is a hybrid it should be easy to tune for but every rifle is its own entity.
Take care,
Phil Hoham
Berger Bullet tech
30 inch barrel will allow you to experiment with a slower powder. This can result in less barrel wear at the throat and higher velocity. Varget is a pretty standard "go to" powder but you may want to try H4350 , vht-n150 too. I use N-550 in my Palma rifle and get 3035 fps with the 155 grain bullets. I know you are using the 200 grain but the potential is there. Make up a dummy round to the lands and go for it.
ALWAYS USE THE LOWEST POWDER CHARGE LISTED FOR YOUR BULLET/CARTRIDGE /POWDER COMBINATION WHEN FINDING YOUR SWEET SPOT SEATING DEPTH. Being that it is a hybrid it should be easy to tune for but every rifle is its own entity.
Take care,
Phil Hoham
Berger Bullet tech
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About how fast are you running these for 1000 yrd FTR in 308win?
About how fast are you running these for 1000 yrd FTR in 308win?
I may try some to see if they will shoot in my barrel. The bullet pressure ring sits right at neck/shoulder junction in my barrel chambered with 0.090 freebore IIRC. So not sure if it will work like I want
barrel shoots the 185 LRBT and hybrids well. So I'm thinking throating it out some will not hurt how my barrel performs at all? Very easy to tune and has shot great since first time I shot it
barrel shoots the 185 LRBT and hybrids well. So I'm thinking throating it out some will not hurt how my barrel performs at all? Very easy to tune and has shot great since first time I shot it
Savageshooter86,
Sinclair FT-R team has their barrels throated to about .170. They also use the standard bore dimensions of .300/.308. Not the .229/.3065. Just for future reference.
Sinclair FT-R team has their barrels throated to about .170. They also use the standard bore dimensions of .300/.308. Not the .229/.3065. Just for future reference.
Thanks. My reamer print shows 0.3/0.3085 Bore/groove
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