Bed or Lap Scope Rings?
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Not really. That’s a light recoiling round. Very light and that isn’t very high for height above bore. What scope is it? I have mounted scopes over 3 pounds on 300WM and never had them move. You probably took out too much of the surface area.
AlNyhus
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FWIW, the 'breakway' force for most guns is around 9 G's. That means that a 2lb. scope will 'weight' 18 lbs. for the brief instant before the gun starts to move in recoil. In a lighter gun that recoils more, the G forces diminish very rapidly. In a heavier gun with a smaller cartridge, the scope can actually experience more force as the gun moves less and doesn't dissappate the G's like a gun that moves a further amount.
If those rings are Melonited, that's an extremely slick surface even after being lapped. Bedding the tube will get ahead of this.
Good shootin' -Al
If those rings are Melonited, that's an extremely slick surface even after being lapped. Bedding the tube will get ahead of this.
Good shootin' -Al
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Years ago I bought a 700 bdl in 223 at a local shop. Bought a quality scope at the same time. The shop offered to mount the scope for an additional 20 dollar fee and I let them. I shot it at our local range and couldn't get it zeroed. A way more experienced shooter took pity and offered to help. We finally decided to take the scope off and when the front ring was loosened the scope actually lifted a bit. The rings were off that much. He offered to take care of it and explained lapping rings and the importance of starting with quality rings to start. He was kind enough to show me how to do it and I've been a believer ever since. Just one less thing to worry about.
That is the lesson to be learned. NEVER let a shop mount a scope. LOL
Infrequent Shooter
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I have used hockey tape, and there is a clear 'tape like' product, not sure if I have used it or not. Don't make fun of my hockey tape. It works pretty well. will get .25+ moa sometimes and consistently <.5 moa HB older Savage.
DShortt
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What warranty do they provide? Scope or rings?
Not exactly true.
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BoydAllen
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Once you have the tools and learn how, from that point forward you can know that all of your scopes are mounted correctly. I like knowing how to do things correctly, and being able to do my own work when I can. I have observed that this is not universal among all shooters, and that is OK. As a matter of fact, I have met some really good guys who should be barred from touching any rifle with a tool ;-)
DShortt
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If you read that they are acknowledging that the receiver or bases may not be perfectly machined even if the rings are. That's the whole point of checking things with a lapping bar.
If you find the rings aren't aligned and you want to chase the 'what's not perfect' rabbit, you can do that. Or you can lap the rings to fit the combination you have.
If you find the rings aren't aligned and you want to chase the 'what's not perfect' rabbit, you can do that. Or you can lap the rings to fit the combination you have.
Mulligan
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The good folks at NF customer service told me all kinds of bull squirt when I had a scope problem.
The dipshit asked me what rings I was using and I told him they were Kelbly rings on an f-class panda with an integral rail.
His reply, “never heard of them, if you want good rings by NF”.
That was my last conversation with that outfit.
CW
The dipshit asked me what rings I was using and I told him they were Kelbly rings on an f-class panda with an integral rail.
His reply, “never heard of them, if you want good rings by NF”.
That was my last conversation with that outfit.
CW
DShortt
Gold $$ Contributor
Got a name to go with that?
And what warranty? They gonna replace the rings after you have scope problems that you can't detect beforehand without checking the system with a lapping bar?
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Mulligan
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nope, it was several years ago. I sold all my NF scopes except on 12-42 after that incident.
March customer service is stellar and they speak straight.
CW
When I talked to the NF rep one day he said most fellas that have problems find the answer in their own mounting system or technic. Where have we heard that before right ?
He also said to watch out for that Clay guy from Colorado ..
Mulligan
Silver $$ Contributor
My rings are Melonited, and I believe you hit the nail on the head.
I plan to bed them with Pro Bed 2000 and dust the rings with a little rosin for insurance.
CW
Mulligan
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