BEAM SCALES

[nakneker]

I’m aware now! I don’t consider it bad feedback. My communication is not good. I realize this and am taking steps to improve. I’m also relearning how to gage time. Without going into names and dates, trust me when I say I’ve had some folks’ scales for way longer than is warranted.

I also have had the experience where one guy sends me a beautiful scale and I knock it out in 30 minutes. Another scale from a different customer I spend the better part of two hours with it before I determine I have to replace a beam. Or, I spend an hour cleaning it before I can make it right. This is not in defense of what is admittedly poor customer service. I offer it as explanation as to the learning curve I have faced and still figuring out in regards to the business side of the part time side business that is my hobby of making scales sing. I need two of me at present. So, I have decided to follow some sane advice from someone who’s been in my shoes. I’m now starting a waiting list. I will not be taking new orders or new work for a few months until I get caught up.

For those of you who have been waiting for some time, I’ll get it done right and back to you as quickly as I can. I thank you for you patience and forbearance through this.

Scott Parker

I like it when someone is honest enough to acknowledge their short comings and address them. I had sent Scott an email earlier this evening and he told me he needed to hold off tuning my scale until he got caught up. Then he came on here and is trying to make it right. That gives him credibility in my book. I wish him luck and hope he lets me know when he can fit my Lyman M5 into his schedule.

 

[hoz53]

I like it when someone is honest enough to acknowledge their short comings and address them. I had sent Scott an email earlier this evening and he told me he needed to hold off tuning my scale until he got caught up. Then he came on here and is trying to make it right. That gives him credibility in my book. I wish him luck and hope he lets me know when he can fit my Lyman M5 into his schedule.

gotta hand it to Scott- he has many irons in the fire including a big family. I believe he is doing the best he can to get it right.

 

[Stud Duck]

Time will tell, but I do applaud him for posting and attempting to correct the problems at hand.

I hope he gets back on-track, I'd really like to send him a scale.

 

[holstil]

I’m aware now! I don’t consider it bad feedback. My communication is not good. I realize this and am taking steps to improve. I’m also relearning how to gage time. Without going into names and dates, trust me when I say I’ve had some folks’ scales for way longer than is warranted.

I also have had the experience where one guy sends me a beautiful scale and I knock it out in 30 minutes. Another scale from a different customer I spend the better part of two hours with it before I determine I have to replace a beam. Or, I spend an hour cleaning it before I can make it right. This is not in defense of what is admittedly poor customer service. I offer it as explanation as to the learning curve I have faced and still figuring out in regards to the business side of the part time side business that is my hobby of making scales sing. I need two of me at present. So, I have decided to follow some sane advice from someone who’s been in my shoes. I’m now starting a waiting list. I will not be taking new orders or new work for a few months until I get caught up.

For those of you who have been waiting for some time, I’ll get it done right and back to you as quickly as I can. I thank you for you patience and forbearance through this.

Scott Parker

Good news. I'm getting excited to use my scale!!

 

[SteveOak]

i am using a SP tuned Lyman M5. came from him working better, but after i followed advise from a well known contributor her on the forum to clean the knife edges and pivot point well and then burnish the knife edges with pencil lead, it took the scale to another level in sensitivity and repeat-ability.

This sounds interesting. I have a 10-10 that he tuned and it is impressive. I can't imagine that it could be better but it appears so. Would you be so kind as to post specific directions please?

 

[hoz53]

Time will tell, but I do applaud him for posting and attempting to correct the problems at hand.

I hope he gets back on-track, I'd really like to send him a scale.

id like to send him a scale to- mabie he will draft one of the kids to help him

 

[swadiver]

remove the beam from the scale turn it upside down, and use some rubbing alcohol to GENTLY clean the knife edge pivots. also clean in the area on the scale where the knife edges sit. gently blow everything dry and with some mechanical pencil lead, gently brush across the knife edges at their sharpest point and a little along the sides. don't coat these parts with the lead, just burnish them.

reinstall carefully. on the Parker tuned scale, i found this increased the scales sensitivity and repeatabilty. about once a month i repeat this procedure.

caveat, i have never tried this on a non Parker tuned scale so i don't know if it helps with those or not. i got a cheap chinese RCBS laying around. i will have to try it on that.

 

[suasponte]

I have two scales that Scott has worked on and they still are working great. If you take care of your equipment it will last many years. Scott has always done me right even told me that a couple scales was not worth the time and effort. He is a stand up guy in my book and will take care of you.
Terry

 

[SteveOak]

remove the beam from the scale turn it upside down, and use some rubbing alcohol to GENTLY clean the knife edge pivots. also clean in the area on the scale where the knife edges sit. gently blow everything dry and with some mechanical pencil lead, gently brush across the knife edges at their sharpest point and a little along the sides. don't coat these parts with the lead, just burnish them.

reinstall carefully. on the Parker tuned scale, i found this increased the scales sensitivity and repeatabilty. about once a month i repeat this procedure.

caveat, i have never tried this on a non Parker tuned scale so i don't know if it helps with those or not. i got a cheap chinese RCBS laying around. i will have to try it on that.

Thanks swadiver! I will have a go at it.

 

[mike a]

That's why I bought a chargemaster and 12V battery then made the appropriate pigtail connections.

I've been leaning towards a charge master. What's with the 12v battery?

 

[spife7980]

I've been leaning towards a charge master. What's with the 12v battery?

A steady constant flow vs the variations that can occur when connected to the grid.
Plus being able to load anywhere which out having to sit 6' from an outlet.

 

[jimmymac]

A steady constant flow vs the variations that can occur when connected to the grid.
Plus being able to load anywhere which out having to sit 6' from an outlet.

^^^
This

 

[jimmymac]

I've been leaning towards a charge master. What's with the 12v battery?

Look here Mike:
http://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/chargemaster-1500-battery-how-to.3940687/#post-37116279

 

[hoz53]

I've been leaning towards a charge master. What's with the 12v battery?

a good beam scale is more accurate than a chargemaster isnt it

 

[jimmymac]

a good beam scale is more accurate than a chargemaster isnt it

I don't have a tuned beam scale as many do, so I can't speak to that. What I will say is that my Redding #2 typically shows me 49.9 grains with 50 grains of check weights. Those same 50 grain check weights come up to 50.0 on my Chargemaster. I had a Lyman Gen 6 that showed me 50.0 as well with my check weights.

It's not a big deal that the Redding isn't in sync with my electronic thrower and it doesn't matter to me which one is "correct" as long as I can get repeatable results on the target. I can and have used both with similar results. The Chargemaster is just faster and more convenient which is why I'm using it. It is accurate enough for the SR group shooting that I am pursuing. It is every bit as good and I suspect better in terms of consistency than the guys who are dropping charges out of powder measures.

If I was a 1000 yard shooter and obsessing over ES, I'd probably be using something else though.

 

[hoz53]

I don't have a tuned beam scale as many do, so I can't speak to that. What I will say is that my Redding #2 typically shows me 49.9 grains with 50 grains of check weights. Those same 50 grain check weights come up to 50.0 on my Chargemaster. I had a Lyman Gen 6 that showed me 50.0 as well with my check weights.

It's not a big deal that the Redding isn't in sync with my electronic thrower and it doesn't matter to me which one is "correct" as long as I can get repeatable results on the target. I can and have used both with similar results. The Chargemaster is just faster and more convenient which is why I'm using it. It is accurate enough for the SR group shooting that I am pursuing. It is every bit as good and I suspect better in terms of consistency than the guys who are dropping charges out of powder measures.

If I was a 1000 yard shooter and obsessing over ES, I'd probably be using something else though.

ive heard different things from different people on chargemasters. I dont want to spend the money on one to find out when i can dump out of a powder measure into scale pan and trickle up. thats quick enough for what i do. if i was a 1000 yd shooter id be getting a fx-120 and ill probably do that one of these days anyway thanks

 

[jimmymac]

ive heard different things from different people on chargemasters. I dont want to spend the money on one to find out when i can dump out of a powder measure into scale pan and trickle up. thats quick enough for what i do. if i was a 1000 yd shooter id be getting a fx-120 and ill probably do that one of these days anyway thanks

I hear you and I did the same thing for years. I went with the Lyman Gen 6 initially and felt it was somewhat of an improvement over what I was doing previously, but I still ended up throwing short out of the Lyman, then transferring to my Redding, then trickle the rest of the way. When I thought about it a bit longer, it wasn't really saving me much time because the Lyman IMO wasn't consistent enough for me so I was adding steps. One charge would be light, the next charge heavy.

I haven't experienced the same thing with the Chargemaster and I've tested it extensively over the last couple months purposely trying to make it hiccup. For the most part, I have this thing running where I may get one over charge every 15 rounds or so and I never get an under charge...ever. I've gone as many as 34 charges in a row before experiencing an overcharge. For me that is perfectly acceptable for my goal of loading fast and accurate. I have no idea if other guys are getting similar results to mine, but so far I am perfectly happy. I can charge cases every 10 to 15 seconds at this point, so the beam scale and trickler don't see the light of day anymore.

I'm sure this unit isn't for everyone, but it is exactly what I was looking for. Talk about thread drift!

 

[hoz53]

I hear you and I did the same thing for years. I went with the Lyman Gen 6 initially and felt it was somewhat of an improvement over what I was doing previously, but I still ended up throwing short out of the Lyman, then transferring to my Redding, then trickle the rest of the way. When I thought about it a bit longer, it wasn't really saving me much time because the Lyman IMO wasn't consistent enough for me so I was adding steps. One charge would be light, the next charge heavy.

I haven't experienced the same thing with the Chargemaster and I've tested it extensively over the last couple months purposely trying to make it hiccup. For the most part, I have this thing running where I may get one over charge every 15 rounds or so and I never get an under charge...ever. I've gone as many as 34 charges in a row before experiencing an overcharge. For me that is perfectly acceptable for my goal of loading fast and accurate. I have no idea if other guys are getting similar results to mine, but so far I am perfectly happy. I can charge cases every 10 to 15 seconds at this point, so the beam scale and trickler don't see the light of day anymore.

I'm sure this unit isn't for everyone, but it is exactly what I was looking for. Talk about thread drift!

thanks for that info-- now if i could just hook a chargemaster up to my dillon