Bag lube

[Raythemanroe]

I use to buy waterproofing powder for my fletchings when I would refletch my arrows or do up some new ones. I always thought that it was very slippery when you got it on your fingers, being it's hydrophobic nature it probably would work in high humidity.. I will have to bring it and give it a test..

Ray

 

[Geronimo Jim]

KG-9 is a great produce. I am a cowboy shooter and it is magic for holster.
It will now be used for my bench rest shooting. THANKS

 

[Olde Man]

I use Alex's 50-50 mix. It works very well for me. If you want to be more subjective use a trigger pull gauge on the front of the barrel to measure the break away torque required to get the gun moving.

 

[JFrank]

Here is what I use for both of my bags.

Stan
The only thing Missing is your ashtray
J

 

[Joe Salt]

Stan when we go down off the Mountain in PA. We say we are going for some Group Tighteners!

Joe Salt

 

[Stan Taylor]

Stan when we go down off the Mountain in PA. We say we are going for some Group Tighteners!

Joe Salt

Ain't know doubt Joe.

 

[Davisduckcalls]

I wanted to share what I came up with (probably not the first as with most everything) as my favorite bag lube for Benchrest. When I lived in a humid state the break away friction of the rifle was what I focused on. Not necessarily slick, but smooth. My goal is for a rifle to start moving with the same pressure it takes to keep it moving if that makes sense. Not extra force to get it moving. Its simple, 50/50 mix of carnuba wax powder and PTFE powder. This worked on leather or cordura. And really worked in those sticky mornings. What are you guys using?

Why dont you whip some up and sell it with all your free time, lol. I need some.

 

[bichettereds]

If you want to be more subjective use a trigger pull gauge on the front of the barrel to measure the break away torque required to get the gun moving.

Never thought of that. Anyone else test this way? If so, what were your results and what did you deem acceptable as far as consistency ?

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Sounds like a great way to test

 

[Olde Man]

Never thought of that. Anyone else test this way? If so, what were your results and what did you deem acceptable as far as consistency ?

My readings varied from 2lbs 6oz to 6lbs 11oz. I have tried leather, 3m silver super slippery and black cordura on my bags. I have used good car war, spay car cleaner and wax, straight silicone and ptfe w powdered carnuba wax. I have tried bare wood, bare and polished aluminum and stock tape. My preference is stock tape, black codura bag material and ptfe with carnuba wax. My biggest improvement has been with a Protektor Heavy Tracker Bag filled by them. Very firm side walls with no movement. I shoot free recoil and my hg dasher will return to battery almost always within less than 1/4 moa. I also like a little wider ear spacing.

 

[JFrank]

My readings varied from 2lbs 6oz to 6lbs 11oz. I have tried leather, 3m silver super slippery and black cordura on my bags. I have used good car war, spay car cleaner and wax, straight silicone and ptfe w powdered carnuba wax. I have tried bare wood, bare and polished aluminum and stock tape. My preference is stock tape, black codura bag material and ptfe with carnuba wax. My biggest improvement has been with a Protektor Heavy Tracker Bag filled by them. Very firm side walls with no movement. I shoot free recoil and my hg dasher will return to battery almost always within less than 1/4 moa. I also like a little wider ear spacing.

I have a personal interest in that Tracker rear bag, do you mind sharing what stock are you running.
Thx
Jim

 

[Olde Man]

I am using a Shehane Tracker St1000 Fiberglass stock on my dasher. The bag has 7/8" spacing with mid ears. The stock measures 7/8" as well. It rides about 1/16" up in the bag. My 30br uses a standard tracker bag with 1/2" spacing on a 1/2" stock and it rides the same. I found that the rear bag fitment is very critical to the guns stability during gun handling. Look through your scope when loading and it becomes obvious.

 

[JFrank]

Very informative, thank you.
I find that the standard BB bag with regular sand will move around too much for my taste.

to stay on topic I'm in the slick material camp, no break away issues

 

[kineteks]

" Its simple, 50/50 mix of carnauba wax powder and PTFE powder."
Alex, a pretty old thread I know but if you happen to see this I wondered where you got the carnauba wax powder, all I can find are flakes.

 

[Alex Wheeler]

Its pretty old, and I actually came up with the mix a few years before I made the post. So your right I can't remember where I got it back then. I still have my original batch, it goes a long way. I know the ptfe powder was used to lube piano keys, so Id look at music supply shops. Here is a current source for the wax https://www.pmatool.com/benchrite-bag-wax/

 

[BoydAllen]

In the past I have used this on my Cordura bags and ears.

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I got the tip from the late Del Bishop. He told me that he and Steve Kostanich were using it with great success, back in the day. I use the clear stock tape. This product sprays on liquid and dries. I spray, wait a bit, reapply, then let dry. It is teflon based and you can put a lot of side tension on a front bag without much braking effect. The only disadvantage is that it is a bit pricey. One other observation that I have made is that I did not get my best results with the slickest bags, but rather with consistent friction, with no breakaway. A slight amount of drag seemed to work better as long as it was the same from shot to shot.

 

[Steve Blair]

I use hexagonal boron nitride. After bag application and use, it embeds itself into the stock finish and becomes very slippery. Although HBN is classed as hygroscopic, I've never had a problem with stickiness. It remains slippery, even in very humid conditions.

 

[Fuj]

Molybdenumdysulfied (SP) It's slicker then Teflon and stays put.
We used the stuff for sticky mold ejector's where you might get
several million cycles per week. I do believe it's the same stuff
Martin Zuck and others were tumbling bullets in.

 

[okie]

Here is what I use for both of my bags.

that is a pretty holler you are shootin in!

 

[Louisb]

Use a spray on lubricant that contains Teflon. Buy at O'Reilly's autopart store. Cannot remember the specific brand name. Spray on and let dry. Seems to work well.