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Back to shipping Issues again....

I had a customer ship two benchrest barrels to me via UPS. Both of these barrels were from a reputable company. The barrels were sent in a 5" round cardboard tube wrapped in duct tape and bubble wrap. When the tube arrived it was no longer round. It was noticeable oval and had what looked like black tire marks on it. The sender was notified and he stated he had rolled the barrels on a sheet of steel and they appeared to be straight before shipping. I mounted both barrels on centers on my lathe. I ran a .001' indicater around each end and up and down the length of the barrels turning them 90* each pass. The rounder and straighter barrel a 1.300" X 30" indicated .0004" runout on the tenon end and .005" runout on the muzzle end. There appeared to be a warp in the barrel about a 1/3 of the distance from the tenon end.

I mounted the 1.063" X 30" barrel on centers. The tenon end indicated .005" runout and the muzzle end indicated .015" runout at the muzzle end. It too had a warp begining about 1/3 the distance from the tenon end.

I contacted the barrel manufacture to see what their spec would be for run out and straightness. They indicated that their barrels most often were within the a few .0001" +/- .0004" in straightness and the run out should not exceed .002"

I felt UPS had clearly bent the barrel during shipping.

This leads me to think barrels should be packed in better containers with better protection. It also leads me to beleive that barrels should be checked for runout, warpage, and bore consistency(slugging) before they are machined. These specs should be documented.

About 3 years ago I was having some difficulties with a particular make of barrel and I discussed it with one of the most respected gunsmiths and he told me that he now inspects every barrel before it is accepetd for use. He told me he had rejected 25 barrels from the same barrel maker I was having quality issues with.

There are several lessons learned from this experience. I thought I would pass it on as most accept their new barrel blanks as pristene and precision in spec. Then have them chambered without much thought to their actual precision qualities, that can not be seen by the naked eye.
Nat Lambeth
 
Would the barrel makers be willing to ship barrels inside steel galvanized pipe if we paid the extra few bucks in cost and shipping? Seems to me that may cure this problem. At least there would be no doubt whatsoever of shipping damage if the steel pipe was flattened/bent on arrival. If the pipe is not bent, it would be the barrel maker at fault.
 
Now I like that idea! Shipping it inside a fitted pipe with spacers and padded end caps. Best of all is you could put that inside a large rifle case as well when shipping parts if you kept the tube small enough.
 
I've often wondered why barrels are not shipped in PVC pipe. End caps can be glued on with PVC cement, & cut-off on arrival with a hacksaw. Extremely durable, waterproof, lightweight (compared to steel galvanized pipe), & relatively inexpensive. Any downsides?
 
I've built wood boxes from furring strips and "pallet wood" before, then stapled cardboard over that, taped to cover the staples, they've always made the trip.

I like the idea of PVC.........seems like the makers should get a handle on this.
 
In the 80's and 90's when I was shooting trap, I used a length of 3" schedule 40 PVC pipe for shipping my shotgun barrels out for repair. Schedule 10 is too flexable and could break easier under the weight of a forklift or truck. Cut the pipe about 4" longer than the barrel you are shipping. That way you can "float" both ends of the barrel with flexable foam or newspaper wadded up. Tape the end caps on with fiberglass reinforced strapping tape so the tube can be reused.
 
I have shipped barrels in a piece of 1 1/2" schedule 40 PVC pipe. No problem with USPS but I believe UPS has an additional "special handling" charge for non-fiber tubes. I believe the UPS fee is an additional 7 or 8 dollars.
 
Using a hard container is a good idea, just keep in mind that UPS will add a surcharge for anything not covered in cardboard. IIRC it is $6.50 additional. Also be mindful of their oversize dimensions.
 
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I believe UPS has an additional "special handling" charge for non-fiber tubes

That is in case your package damages their heavy equipment.
 
jhord said:
Using a hard container is a good idea, just keep in mind that UPS will add a surcharge for anything not covered in cardboard. IIRC it is $6.50 additional. Also be mindful of their oversize dimensions.

That's why I did what I did.......

I still have the UPS Maintenance contract, we get paid to fix what they break with your package.......
 
I like fdshuster idea thought about making my own and sending to barrel manufacture except i was thinking of screw on cap on one end with a hole drilled through to put a pull tie through to seal it with
 

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