Arizona Sheriffs

[Nomad47]

I have been out of the loop for a while so I don't know if this has been discussed lately or not. I went back three pages and didn't find anything related.

Two of the Arizona County Sheriffs are advocating for law abiding citizens to carry weapons especially in crowded areas like malls, etc. Both Sheriffs made statements shortly after the San Bernardino fiasco.

And Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County (the county that Phoenix is located in) was on the news last night. He stated he would refuse to confiscate any firearms if Obama issues an executive order pertaining to confiscation of firearms. He also said he believed there would be a revolution if Obama followed thru with such an executive order.

My apologies if there has already been a discussion on this subject.

Comments?

Also, what has New York been able to accomplish in the way of gun control that Obama might try to apply to the entire country?

 

[people]

Arm your self and carry every day. Get training, practice, get sharp and stay that way.

Most firearms owners are just that owners. They do not have the mindset to carry.

Virginia is on the do not travel list. I will also stop buying supplies from that state also.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-revokes-handgun-permit-agreement-with-25-states/2015/12/22/9cde9804-a8c6-11e5-b596-113f59ee069a_story.html

 

[GerryM]

The governor of NewYork has implemented The safe act
It makes it llegal to own an AR type firearm unless it.s registered with the state police
That included Ak and would be other types of assault weapons, Also restrictions on magazine capacity and
On line ordering of ammo
He did this under the guise of an order of necessity in the middle of the night with zero debate.
5 or 6 would be republicans helped push it thru. It also require permit holders to reapply every 5 years.

 

[redrockranger]

When was the last time any of you read the U S Constitution and the Bill of Rights ?

Seems to me the Bill of Rights is non-negotiable. The founders created it for a reason . The mind of men are the same today as pre revolution and they understood this. If you research it i think the Bill of rights was added years after the Constitution.

I almost feel ashamed to use terms Constitution and Bill of Rights.

Today a east coast state has now recinded a reciprocal carry law with 25 states .

Most of those who represent you will do anything to get you off their back and want you to go away when you ask them.
they know that by the time the next election comes around all is forgotten. It's strange that they passed term limits for the office of the President but not themselves.

 

[Dusty Stevens]

Take away one freedom per generation and people wont even notice. People in france have no idea that somebody on that street with a gun in their pocket coulda made a difference

 

[Jammer Six]

Only one of the rights in the Bill of Rights is non-negotiable. The rest are subject to regulation. And that's a good thing.

The Constitution is only one source of law.

 

[StevenDzupin]

Jammer, I'd add my Bible in there too.

Just sayin.

 

[redrockranger]

Please furnish the 1 that's protected ?

Constitution is Ultimate LAW...... It is suppose to protect us from the king. The problem is your left wing crazies has high jacked the sytems.

Your reply is exactly what i'd expect from the left and right coasts. Product of a failed educational system.

 

[JarheadAZ]

Those of us who reside in NY know that if your Governor is backed up by Bloomberg, the Constitution, and probably the entire rule of law, isn't worth the paper it's printed on.

BTW, the sitting Assembly Speaker at the time of passage was recently convicted of corruption and sentenced to over 30yr in prison. Not betting he'll even serve a day. NY politics at the state level, and NYC level, sucks.

Yeah, it's me; Greg

 

[Nomad47]

Is the Maricopa County Sheriff speculating? Or has Obama already threatened to confiscate all firearms?

Does anyone else agree with the Sheriff that there would be a revolution if an executive order was issued?

 

[BigBlueandGoldie]

I lived in Maricopa county for 25 years, and have never witnessed a bigger lunatic than Joe Arpio. He has cost the taxpayers millions of dollars with his mouth and actions. He'll probably never learn. If Obama has actually made that threat, I'd sure like for someone to post a credible link to it.

Yeah, but his actions have also saved the county millions of dollars. He might be a loon, but people keep voting him in, so he's doing something right in the eyes of the majority. A family member of mine was the county supervisor for 16yrs in a neighboring county, so we know Joe pretty well. To your point, as a Democrat (all for gun rights though) she even said she would've loved to have him as a sheriff, but wouldn't want the nightmare of having to fund him.

 

[people]

dianne feinstein, chuck schumer are crazy so there is that.

 

[waterfwlr]

I lived in Maricopa county for 25 years, and have never witnessed a bigger lunatic than Joe Arpio. He has cost the taxpayers millions of dollars with his mouth and actions. He'll probably never learn. If Obama has actually made that threat, I'd sure like for someone to post a credible link to it.

Yeah, he's such a lunatic that he has been elected to a unprecedented 6 four year terms.

 

[redrockranger]

My apology's for stepping on this thread. I'm taking another approach on this.

Executive Order. I think from a historical perspective that the U S Supeme Court would cite the portion of the Constitution that their decision was based on. I have requested from U S Senator Chuck Grassley where this Executive Order could be found in the Constitution. Still waiting for an answer. Basically if the Office of the President can govern by edict we don't need a House and Senate.

 

[Jhayesvw]

It's my understanding that executive orders were meant for the executive branch (the president) to get little stuff done that would be a waste of time for congress.

Like making a holiday or other trivial stuff. Not pushing immigration policy.
Obama has screwed the pooch and set a bad precedent. The next republican president can now do stuff like this and really loss off the left.

Same as Reid messing with the numbers for majority in the senate. They never learn.

 

[bibsmachine]

I lived in Maricopa county for 25 years, and have never witnessed a bigger lunatic than Joe Arpio. He has cost the taxpayers millions of dollars with his mouth and actions. He'll probably never learn. If Obama has actually made that threat, I'd sure like for someone to post a credible link to it.

Yeah, he's such a lunatic that he has been elected to a unprecedented 6 four year terms.

That he has And Obama, after costing the taxpayers billions of dollars, was elected to a 2nd 4 year term as President. That shows just how many Kool-Aid drinkers Maricopa County and the U.S. have ;D

Yeah and just think if that piece of crap we call a president could run again he would win again. And that is how dumb americans really are!

 

[Warren Dean]

And Obama, after costing the taxpayers billions of dollars, was elected to a 2nd 4 year term as President. That shows just how many Kool-Aid drinkers Maricopa County and the U.S. have ;D

Would you care to define your argument against Joe Arpaio with facts? Trashing a VERY effective sheriff is your right, I suppose, but how about a grownup argument with facts and such, since you don't live anywhere near Arizona? The only people that raise hell about Joe Arpaio are the moonbat lefties, most of whom immigrated from the East and West Coasts, I might add, and the criminal illegal aliens, that are as thick as fleas on a coyote. The rest of us think he's doing a pretty good job and appreciate him.

And for you to equate the punk in the White House and Joe Arpaio is a special kind of stupid.

 

[Warren Dean]

..... Basically if the Office of the President can govern by edict we don't need a House and Senate.

Our forefathers would have been shooting by now.

 

[Steve Blair]

It appears, Congress can override an Executive Order, but the President can veto it. Something interesting is the number of executive orders used throughout our history. More than 13,000 times. Obama is on the LOW end of the numbers. FDR used 3,721 executive orders.

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There are several ways a President can enact policy without involving Congress. Executive actions are one, as are Presidential Memoranda, Presidential Decision Directives and departmental regulatory changes. Executive actions must be numbered and published in the Federal Register, Presidential Memoranda may be published or not, at the President's discretion, and policy directives to a cabinet secretary can be done on the phone but should follow notification and comment requirements peculiar to that department. PDD's, pertaining to national security, can be issued in secret. [br]
In all, Obama has issued more directives than most but not a record amount. The difference is that a number of them have been far-reaching and sometimes directly conflict with existing law.

 

[22BRGUY]

Only one of the rights in the Bill of Rights is non-negotiable. The rest are subject to regulation. And that's a good thing.

The Constitution is only one source of law.

The Second Amendment simply states a right already very evident in Natural Law. Try telling a mother bear that her right to defend her den and her cubs any way she pleases is negotiable.