Anyone cancelled an order with SSS?

[tiny68]

For me, I would not Pay $585 for a timed and trued. You will have the cost of a Bat action in a Savage action .

Mark,

I think he is paying $585 for a trued & action. Not $585 for just gunsmith work. My T&T service on my action was $100 or $105. Been a few years. You aren't going to touch even a BAT SV for that price. Tim

 

[lazyeiger]

For me, I would not Pay $585 for a timed and trued. You will have the cost of a Bat action in a Savage action .

Mark,

I think he is paying $585 for a trued & action. Not $585 for just gunsmith work. My T&T service on my action was $100 or $105. Been a few years. You aren't going to touch even a BAT SV for that price. Tim

Yes indeed $585 for the action including T & T .
Jon

 

[Rock Knocker]

Do yourself a favor and call Jim Briggs of Northland Shooter supply, hes should have a couple in stock and for $460-$490.

Here is his number 763/682-4296

 

[MarkS]

tiny68,

I hoped he was not paying that much for a trued factory action.

Mark Schronce

 

[memilanuk]

Mark... guess I'm a little confused about what you're getting at. The bare action costs somewhere around $400-450 (been a little while since I priced one) - are you saying that $585 (say $425 for the action, $160 for the truing, just for the sake of numbers) for an action that has been trued-n-timed is somehow approaching the price of a BAT action (well over a grand last one I looked at)? If so, you'll have to explain that math to me.

The delivery time issues are what they are... some people give 'optimistic' times in order to keep attracting customers who are shopping around for the shortest delivery time. Usually they find out the hard way how reality works. I've had my share of good and not-so-good experiences with SSS - more good than not-so, fwiw. My primary gripe with SSS is their practice of charging customers accounts immediately for work that may not be delivered for weeks or months, essentially using your credit card to finance their inventory. *NO* other business I have ever dealt with, from small mom-n-pop shops to big businesses, do that sort of B.S. regardless of whatever excuses the SSS fan-boys may put forth.

 

[deadlyswift]

If you really think about it. Turing the newer Savage actions isn't needed. If things aren't square the floating bolt head takes care of that. I'd cancel my order with SSS. Buy a action from Jim Briggs and run with it!
Mark

 

[ChipEckardt]

I had my Savage F12 actioned timed and trued by Fred and had him install an Evo trigger. Rifle now shoot 1/4 MOA tighter at 1,000 yards.

Chip

 

[tiny68]

If you really think about it. Turing the newer Savage actions isn't needed. If things aren't square the floating bolt head takes care of that. I'd cancel my order with SSS. Buy a action from Jim Briggs and run with it!
Mark

The bolt head is not the only issue. I have shot all my actions before and afters Fred's T&T job. Did it make a huge improvement in accuracy, but not really but I think it helped. The threads action threads are recut. The action face is squared. The barrel nut is squared. I think the biggest improvement is the cocking ramp is recut which significantly decreases bolt lift when trying to cycle a round and not disturb the your gun in the bags. In opinion it is money well spend. It is equivalent to a BAT or a PANDA. I don't think so, but it isn't far behind them. I have never saw a Savage action on the winners list in a registrated point blank BR match. Know F/Class is entirely different matter. I think Savage is doing fine here.... Or maybe it is the driver.. ;D ;D

To each his own. Best wishes, Tim

 

[MarkS]

memilanuk,

The first post did not say The $585 was for both action and T&T. I did not know what a T&T cost. My bad on compairing the cost to a Bat.

Mark Schronce

 

[Heavies]

Lawrence,

Your dealings where in 2005, my dealings in 2010. I had almost the exact same experience, and the OP too.

Looks like they haven't changed one bit.

 

[tenring]

Ten years ago when I had Fred work on a rifle, service was great; apparently much has since changed. This same subject was discussed on this forum a while back. The one thing which stood out in my mind was that the BBB gave SSS a very poor rating, and particularly because of their failure to respond to consumer complaints.

 

[snoog37]

Could never get thru to PLACE an order, so best of luck in cancelling one.

I've tried too many times & wasted too much time to do business with SSS. ONLY thing I will do is order PARTS (comp trigger + lug) from them, but even do that reluctantly. Kevin Rayhill is my go-to for savage.

 

[favload]

If your getting po'd about waiting for a little over a month so far,dont ever order a custom action. ;D

Just to get things straight. It is not the long wait I am ticked off about it is.

1/ The fact that I was outright lied to about the delivery time. I really do not need the action T&T'd I can do that perfectly well myself but the delivery time quoted by SSS was quicker than many other sources for just the action.

2/ I have worked with many companies while racing go-karts ,full size cars and sailboats and I have NEVER had my credit card charged for the full amount on the day of the order but this seems to be the norm in the gun buisness?

I am new to shooting am I am so suprised that you all are so vocal about many other issues but are prepared to put up will this bs*t from these gunsmiths!

By the way not all gunsmiths are like this. I built a custom .22LR for my son and worked with Kidd Inovative Design and they are a real class act! Every thing they made for me was delivered exactly as promised or earlier.

Cheers!

Jon

I agree with you on most points here. However, there are sources for custom parts you can get in a week or less. For the target action, Jim Briggs at Northlander has them in stock and ready to ship the day you order one ($475). I think Brunos shooting supply also has them in stock. You can buy krieger blanks at at least 3 online locations in stock depending on your contour. Last year i emailed them a question about a SSS product twice. They NEVER even responded. Not a great way to do business. Last but not least i don't know why one would even bother to TT a savage action with a floating bolt head? My father had it done and we can't see or feel any major difference and it shoots the same anyway. I would get your money back one way or the other if it was me.

 

[Dgd6mm]

Straightpipes ordered some on the shelf parts from Lisa 3 weeks ago. He has been told that they would be on their way the next day more then once. STILL NO PARTS. Would you do bussiness with these people or like this? Not me.

 

[Rustystud]

First, I want to say Fred has carved out a nitche for himself. I will further say Fred and Lisa are at the mercy of their vendors on many things. They have to deal with the public which as a small business is real challenge. They have their share of difficult customers to deal with. Jim Bakers Savage Shooters web site has always been a pro Sharp Shooters Supply for a number of reasons, one being Fred is a customer of Jims and Jim is a customer of Freds. They have a symbionic relationship. It is interesting seeing post on other sites where sensorship does not abound.

There are many excellent gunsmiths who know and successfully work on Savage rifles. I can only suggest those who are not happy with SSS should send their work else where.

Nat Lambeth

 

[Sav-1Shot]

..Lisa is not worth dealing with..Savageshooters has ramped SSS to throne statis..Customer service is a who's, who..statis...Tried to get a refund on a stock & had to end up putting the C-Card people on her...Her excuse was she didn't have time to credit my account...WRONG...He might be the best 1 out there but it means nothing if all you get is a run around..Have to wonder if Savage had Fred T&T thier F-class Factory shooters...I've shot many a hole with a standard action..If I was shooting for money it would'nt be with a savage action..The bbl. does the work anyway...

 

[artbosco]

I will further say Fred and Lisa are at the mercy of their vendors on many things. They have to deal with the public which as a small business is real challenge.

There are many excellent gunsmiths who know and successfully work on Savage rifles.

Nat,

Regardless of the business atmosphere that SSS operates in and their day to day challenges, I believe they could have developed, and it's still not too late, a much better public relations policy by being very candid when it comes to delivery times.

All I ever asked for was an honest, [not a contrived assessment,] of when I could expect to see my work completed. If it was really going to take six months, instead of the three offered, then say six months. At least then, I could have made an informed decision to go elsewhere, or if I had six months to wait, I would know that at the end of six months I could truly know that my rifle was going to show up.

I believe that is all anyone that's posted negatively, ever wanted.

If you would be so kind, could you compile and post a list of the many excellent Savage gunsmiths you spoke of? Thanks in advance.

 

[xr650rRider]

I finally had to take mine to the Ohio Attorney General to get anything accomplished. I was told at the time of ordering that everything was in stock except for the stock and that looked like it would be 12 weeks out. It took 355 days to get the rifle.
Their response back to the Attorney General was that I was offered a refund several times and that was never true. Said I was given opportunity to just pay deposit but I insisted on paying full amount. What kind of boob would pay full amount when deposit was an option? Said they were at mercy of suppliers on several different parts. What about telling me everything was in stock except for stock? Overall just a miserable experience with a deceitful vendor. I did finally get the complete build and $49 extra for rings that didn't originally ship but I had to pay $56 2 day air for a stock I didn't damage. SSS just say no.

 

[cliffe]

xr650r, didn't you say in a different post that the stock was damaged in shipping?? didn't you show a picture of a cracked hard case? wouldn't the damage be the shippers fault?? cliffe

 

[xr650rRider]

xr650r, didn't you say in a different post that the stock was damaged in shipping?? didn't you show a picture of a cracked hard case? wouldn't the damage be the shippers fault?? cliffe

Very well could have been. All I know was it was damaged when I received it. I just said it wasn't my fault and I still had to pay for return shipping. They filed the claim and will get reimbursed.