anschutz

[Buck 89]

what model anschutz is the most accurate?

 

[natdscott]

Probably the 2013 BR50 rifle. But without knowing more about your discipline...

-Nate

 

[Shynloco]

what model anschutz is the most accurate?

Buck,
It's not necessarily the model of the Anschutz, it more the action because there are two that Anschutz offers, the 54 Match and the 64 Match. As was said in the previous post, the 2013 is an excellent rifle and has the 54 Match action which is the better of the two. That is not to say the 64 Match isn't good because it is. But the more serious competitior will ask for the 54 Match action so as to be an even keel with the competitiors who have like quality actions, not all necessarily Anschutz. But since I don't compete SERIOUSLY, I happen to have a Anschutz 64 MPR that shoots extremely tight groups at 50 yds. In fact, in local competitions, my Anschutz often outshoots the Hall, Turbo and even Remington 40X guys. But I can tell you if I were to be serious and was competing against any Anschutz with a 54 action, I'd have to go buy me a new BR50 Anschutz so as not to give any edge to the other shooters. They are truly a SWEET rifle.

 

[Buck 89]

Thanks for info

 

[Sray53TXTN]

I could not swing the bigger $ for the 54 action stuff, so for my entry into the Annie world got this 1960's 64Match (like new sat in a guys safe for a couple decades:

Fed Gold Medal 922a at 50yds 5 rounds

 

[Shynloco]

I could not swing the bigger $ for the 54 action stuff, so for my entry into the Annie world got this 1960's 64Match (like new sat in a guys safe for a couple decades:

Fed Gold Medal 922a at 50yds 5 rounds

Hey Buck 89,
Take a look at Ronoray's target. Thats what a Match 64 Action will get you IF you do your part. Now the REAL name of the game is to get all the 25 ARA Targets to look like his one with only one shot per target. With either of Anschutz actions, it IS attainable if you practice and have good shooting habits.


BTW, Rinoay, nice shootin! My 64 MPR likes the Ultra Match UM22 just a tad better than the 922A.

 

[in2deep]

We have serious 100 yard matches and most all the guys that don't have custom guns shoot the older Annies which are widely known to have better barrels on average than the modern ones being imported into the states. At 100 yards there is no discernible difference between $3000. customs and a good old 54's as at that distance even a whisp of wind is the great equalizer and the shooter has to work it.

We have one 64 that can hang but mostly the 54's rule the roost and can hold tight little knots at 100 yards but one fellow has a new 2013 and it can really bughole as good as any also.

But rimfires are very ammo sensitive and when your lot of ammo runs out the search begins again and I have seen shooters go from hero to zero depending on availability of the right ammo.

 

[Buck 89]

What is the price for most 54's?

 

[Shynloco]

Depends on the model and condition. But I've been offered two 2013 models which the more serious shooter use and the price was right at $2300 (without any scope or rings) - USED. Take a look at the different models with the 54 actions over at www.championshooters.com and those are the new ones. You can find a few used BR50's and expect to see an asking price right at $2300 - $2500 (without scope or rings) and they are usually in excellent condition. Kind of depends how patient you are wiling to be and how much you are willing to pay. You might also consider calling Dan Killough down at www.KilloughShootingsports.com down in Texas. He deals in used and new Anschutz and now and then has some pretty nice used 2013's or even a BR50 from time to time. He's a super nice guy and very squared away and fair. He also has some Anschutz rifles with the 54 action that go for less than $2000 but again the price depends on the model and condition of it. Hope that helps some.

 

[Shynloco]

But rimfires are very ammo sensitive and when your lot of ammo runs out the search begins again and I have seen shooters go from hero to zero depending on availability of the right ammo.

Thats why if you are a serious shooter, you buy of case of the same lot and by the time you run out, might as well change out the barrel too. Nobody ever said this serious Rimfire stuff was CHEAP!

 

[DanL]

I think I saw a little mis-information regarding the different Anschutz actions. There have been quite a few, but there are really only three recent versions. These include the more modest and inexpensive Model 64, the Model 54 and then the 2000 series.

The 64 and 54 are both round actions, but the 54 is more robust and more accurate, with a more refined and close fitting bolt.

The 2000 series is a different animal, but shares the bolt of the Model 54. The 2000 series is flat on the sides and bottom, and has 4 action bedding screws.

Both the 54 and the 2000 are very very good actions, either with factory barrels of with custom barrels. The one advantage to the 2000 series is that the barrel is clamped in, making barrel switches relatively simple. Several manufacturers make drop in barrels for the 2000 action.

 

[natdscott]

Thats why if you are a serious shooter, you buy of case of the same lot and by the time you run out, might as well change out the barrel too.

Thattt's not really true. A case of only 5,000 rounds is nowhere NEAR enough through a .22LR that is shooting well to bother even touching the barrel. If I had a .22 that was shooting lights out, I'd not even consider changing it short of 30,000 rounds, or until accuracy dropped off for some reason (and the normal reason for that is improper cleaning).

The one advantage to the 2000 series is that the barrel is clamped in, making barrel switches relatively simple.

This is also untrue. Getting a barrel out of, and new IN to the 2000 series actions is very easy, sure...but getting one to shoot the way it was with the old barrel, or even getting the SAME barrel to shoot the same as it was prior to removal...that's another thing entirely.

The above is not knowledge that I discovered...I'm just passing along the considerable wisdom of a fellow Hoosier.

-Nate

 

[DanL]

Thats why if you are a serious shooter, you buy of case of the same lot and by the time you run out, might as well change out the barrel too.

Thattt's not really true. A case of only 5,000 rounds is nowhere NEAR enough through a .22LR that is shooting well to bother even touching the barrel. If I had a .22 that was shooting lights out, I'd not even consider changing it short of 30,000 rounds, or until accuracy dropped off for some reason (and the normal reason for that is improper cleaning).

The one advantage to the 2000 series is that the barrel is clamped in, making barrel switches relatively simple.

This is also untrue. Getting a barrel out of, and new IN to the 2000 series actions is very easy, sure...but getting one to shoot the way it was with the old barrel, or even getting the SAME barrel to shoot the same as it was prior to removal...that's another thing entirely.

The above is not knowledge that I discovered...I'm just passing along the considerable wisdom of a fellow Hoosier.

-Nate

What you may have struggled with is not the difficulty of the barrel change, but rather the finicky nature of the flat base of the action and the four bedding screws. I did too at first. I now use an aluminum bedding block glassed into the stock bottom and adapted to the action bottom that allows more positive and easier tightening of the action screws.