Annie vs amp reviews?

[DngBat7]

I don’t really want to compare Annie vs amp annealer. I know amps are top notch machines. But Annie’s look like they hold their weight as an inductive annealer that anneals down to the 1/10 of a second and are at a price that are on par with most good flame annealers. So do a lot of people on here have them? I don’t see a lot of talk or reviews?

 

[Ronsiliani]

Annie + Giraud. I'll do 100-150 Hagar cases at a time 2.6-2.8 sec, no cooler needed. Had for couple years. No more inconsistent shoulder setback.

 

[theallcineyes]

I own an AMP unit and absolutely love how consistent the machine is. I purchased it from Alex Findlay from AMP in March 2016 and have nothing but praise.
I was running a Vertex model from Bench Source, I had no trouble selling that unit to make way for this new one. I've not cooked a single piece of brass, under annealed or has to guess since buying it. The neck and shoulder anneals perfectly every single time and it's so clean and user friendly... Quiet too!
I send my brass to Alex express post, he emails as soon as he receives it and has a custom program to me in a matter of hours and he's even sent me pilots for various cases the next business day. Amazing customer service...

Granted the auto feed would be an excellent addition, but I don't mind feeding the machine individual cases, it only takes a moment to anneal each case depending on the program you are using, so bulking through 100 or more cases in 20 minutes isn't such a big deal, might be a 1 or 2 beer job

The down fall I found with running gas, was as the cylinder loses pressure the intensity of the flame drops away, as you work through a lot of say 200 cases, the torch would need adjusting at least once, maybe twice, depending on the temperature in the workshop to keep the same exact annealing temperature. It wasn't a super fiddly job, but just a consideration when annealing with gas... I also over cooked a number of brass trying to set the machine up to my annealing standards, the tempilaq laquer is the best guess you have at nailing the correct annealing temp, but even then, it's a little touch and go if it was spot on or a little too far...

The induction annealing machine has made it a non issue now...

I'm a huge fan of mine and can't recommend the machines highly enough!

 

[powderbrake]

I believe induction annealing is the best way to go. It gives very repeatable and controllable action.
I own an Annie, and I believe it is a great machine. I did a write up on building an annealing system with the Annie, and it is posted here:
http://forum.accurateshooter.com/threads/induction-annealer-built-around-annie.3914150/

Now it was during the winter, and I needed a construction project to keep myself happy, so I probably overdid it a bit.

If I were asked to recommend an simple, low cost Annie set-up, I would suggest Norm Matsen's design, (post # 43). Nothing but an Annie, a block of wood or plastic, and a few glass rods.

 

[normmatzen]

I should mention my thought process to buying an ANNIE.
As a retired electronic engineer designing analog integrated circuits as well as switched mode power supply drivers for 50 years, I decided to build my own inductive annealer. After a couple bread-boards and blown power MOS transistors I realized building stuff wasn't as much fun as it was years ago!

So, I was one of the early adopters of the Annie and did suffer through some gearing up for production by the ANNIE manufacturer but with each problem, they took good care of me. Now I have been using the same unit for a number of years with NO problems.

When the AMP was introduced, I was impressed with their design process and end product. But, after annealing for a lot of years with my Annie, I found I could anneal 100 cases in a half hour or so with VERY consistent results. I did build a very simple case holder for my Annie and even tho the AMP is no doubt a much better design, I find the Annie an extremely good design for the intended job and at a very reasonable price.

 

[Deleted old_dood]

for several years I've had an Annie and am satisfied. I've made none of the add-ons others have done. It's quick and repeatable. with the water filled coil you do have to raise the unit up depending on the cartridge brass height. plywood pieces and cardboard shims do the trick.