Annealing brass and full length sizing.

[Dave T]

What full length sizing steps should be done before annealing brass? Do you full length size your cases before you anneal or do you full length size after you anneal, or do you do both? I am going to anneal some brass and I want the absolute least bit of working of the brass. Please can we keep the responses focused on when to full length size. May I add that DJ's Brass Service & Restoration is just top notch.
Dave T

 

[Shynloco]

Personally I'd anneal first and then FL size.

Alex

 

[TimP]

Personally I'd anneal first and then FL size.

Alex

+1 anneal first

 

[tac284]

Full length after for me. I don't know why anyone would do it before, maybe for practice ???. When you full length resize with a bushing die and set your neck size then heat your neck to 700 degrees the neck is going to expand and not come back to your exact size. Atleast thats how my pee brain thinks

 

[Nomad47]

+3 anneal first

 

[Barlow]

10-4 anneal then resize. Barlow

 

[thumper4fun]

I know I sound like a broken record but anneal first and then size away.....

 

[Erik Cortina]

The reason for annealing is to make brass pliable for resizing.
So, anneal then F/L size.

 

[Dave T]

Thanks for the responses, I guess I didn't want to start working the brass immediately after annealing. I guess I'm going to have to pony up and buy an annealing machine because I have a gun that blows back gases if the brass has hardened just a little.
Dave T
May I add that DJ's Brass Service & Restoration is top notch, great work and great people.

 

[barnesuser28]

Thanks for the responses, I guess I didn't want to start working the brass immediately after annealing. I guess I'm going to have to pony up and buy an annealing machine because I have a gun that blows back gases if the brass has hardened just a little.
Dave T
May I add that DJ's Brass Service & Restoration is top notch, great work and great people.

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[amlevin]

Add me to the anneal first crowd. IMHO you'll get more uniform sizing if you anneal first and the little bit your work the brass in that sizing will be minimal in the overall scheme of things.

If work hardening is your concern just anneal after every firing.

As for machines, yes they're great. However I see them in the category of a progressive press. Great if you're loading lots of ammo in a session. Unnecessary if you're merely loading 50-100 rounds at a time.

It's all a matter of choice and what one wants to do with their $400.

 

[jonbearman]

Just make sure that you dont have a case with a seemingly dud primer still it because it will go off and cause injury.Just a note of safety as I almost did that.

 

[amlevin]

Just make sure that you dont have a case with a seemingly dud primer still it because it will go off and cause injury.Just a note of safety as I almost did that.

Just deprime with a universal depriming die. I also clean the cases after doing this in stainless steel pin media before annealing. This keeps the necks form getting a crappy look from all the carbon etc and I can see color change easier. Also gives me nice clean primer pockets.

Also, annealing after cleaning with the "wet" pin method makes the cases dry nice and quick 8)