Amazon Has Brand New Ohaus 10-10 Scales Listed

[Clearlight]

Thanks for your post Scott . I’m in Aus so difficult to take adavantage
of your excellent service . I know a few guys in US that run your tuned
scales and they are very good .

To the O P . Forget the chinky junk , find a US made product . Maybe
google scale / lab equipment suppliers in your area . With a little
Google fu and a few phone calls , you might find a lightly used or NOS
scale for the same $ as a fake one .

 

[jghoghunter]

The scales that I tune and supply are warranted for my lifetime. I of course keep parts for these scales.
I typically have 1&1/2 hours or so in a scale by the time I’m satisfied with it. Sometimes, I go through all the motions and find that I’m still not happy with it. Then I replace the beam and start again.
I believe I charge a fair price for a quality scale.

I have customers who are rightly unhappy for the long wait time. I also am working on my level of communication. There are only so many hours in the day.

If the Chinese started producing rifle barrel blanks for half the cost of a Krieger, would you buy one?

Scott Parker
Single Kernel Scales

Scott that's a great post defending yourself. But I wouldn't get to upset about austin870 he's just trolling to get a rise!! You are the best guy around to work on a beam scale. Do you work on the new Chinese junk? No. You have said before that they can not be made to work as well as the old ones. And we are back to paying a premium for the old ones. As always, you get what you pay for.

 

[dcali]

Problem with your suggestion is... to buy into the current used market a real nice and certainly decades old Ohaus made 10/10 goes for $110 to $130 plus shipping. The minty ones $150+ with no parts available. Then Scott wants another $70+ to tune it plus shipping at least to him if not both ways. For a good "not new" 10/10 scale done by Scott you are looking at well over $200. This Amazon 10/10 scale is less than have that price with a warranty and I would imagine parts available.

Everyone said Glocks sucked because they were foreign and made of plastic but they sold millions into the US market so who knows.

The real problem is that these are in all likelihood not Ohaus scales at all. If they're real, Ohaus makes no mention of them on their website. Given that, the typos in the description, that it's Amazon, and there is nowhere else you can buy them except eBay, you sort of have to assume they're fake. That means no warranty, no parts, no nothing.

If you're Ohaus, and you want to sell reloading scales, wouldn't you call up Midway, Brownells, Cabellas, and the like? Or RCBS, for that matter? Nothing about these scales makes sense. I'll bet dollars to donuts they're convincing but cheap copies of the real deal.

 

[austin870]

The scales that I tune and supply are warranted for my lifetime. I of course keep parts for these scales.
I typically have 1&1/2 hours or so in a scale by the time I’m satisfied with it. Sometimes, I go through all the motions and find that I’m still not happy with it. Then I replace the beam and start again.
I believe I charge a fair price for a quality scale.
I have customers who are rightly unhappy for the long wait time. I also am working on my level of communication. There are only so many hours in the day.

If the Chinese started producing rifle barrel blanks for half the cost of a Krieger, would you buy one?

Scott Parker
Single Kernel Scales

Scott, I was not trying to ruffle any feathers. There will always be people who want things customized and few providing those services. Nobody is saying your services are not worth what you charge. I am talking about the market in general. You are the high end of the 10/10 market right now. Heck, the last new RCBS 10/10's made in USA were going for about $249 in stores when they stopped production. I have no doubt if Ohaus produced a US made 10/10 with quality to what they used to it would sell for $300 or more and it would still not split hairs like yours. It would however be better than the $100 10/10's floating around but the sales volume would be so low Ohaus can't produce them anymore.

As far as the Chinese production of barrels go... If they backward engineered the Krieger barrels and made them to shoot for half Krieger cost and their level of accuracy was all I could shoot I would buy the Chinese barrel. I knew people who went through several Krieger barrels before choosing one acceptable for a single season but that is certainly not me.

I guess the quest for accurate equipment is really dictated by the type of shooting you do combined with the talent and time you have. For a lot of people a granule on their powder charge is way down there on their quest for better accuracy. My problem is time and diminishing senses. I wish they would produce those in China.

 

[sparker]

Scott, I was not trying to ruffle any feathers. There will always be people who want things customized and few providing those services. Nobody is saying your services are not worth what you charge. I am talking about the market in general. You are the high end of the 10/10 market right now. Heck, the last new RCBS 10/10's made in USA were going for about $249 in stores when they stopped production. I have no doubt if Ohaus produced a US made 10/10 with quality to what they used to it would sell for $300 or more and it would still not split hairs like yours. It would however be better than the $100 10/10's floating around but the sales volume would be so low Ohaus can't produce them anymore.

As far as the Chinese production of barrels go... If they backward engineered the Krieger barrels and made them to shoot for half Krieger cost and their level of accuracy was all I could shoot I would buy the Chinese barrel. I knew people who went through several Krieger barrels before choosing one acceptable for a single season but that is certainly not me.

I guess the quest for accurate equipment is really dictated by the type of shooting you do combined with the talent and time you have. For a lot of people a granule on their powder charge is way down there on their quest for better accuracy. My problem is time and diminishing senses. I wish they would produce those in China.

No offense taken. I did want to take the opportunity to explain the amount of time that can go into making the scale right. I’m always starved for time. And, I have a new product to bring to shooters! I just need to catch up on the scale work to make some time for production.

Scott Parker
Single Kernel Scales

 

[Lapua40X]

Looks like a knock-off of:
http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com...eam-scales-for-precision-and-repeatability-2/

 

[Evlshnngns]

No offense taken. I did want to take the opportunity to explain the amount of time that can go into making the scale right. I’m always starved for time. And, I have a new product to bring to shooters! I just need to catch up on the scale work to make some time for production.

Scott Parker
Single Kernel Scales

???

 

[austin870]

The real problem is that these are in all likelihood not Ohaus scales at all. If they're real, Ohaus makes no mention of them on their website. Given that, the typos in the description, that it's Amazon, and there is nowhere else you can buy them except eBay, you sort of have to assume they're fake. That means no warranty, no parts, no nothing.

If you're Ohaus, and you want to sell reloading scales, wouldn't you call up Midway, Brownells, Cabellas, and the like? Or RCBS, for that matter? Nothing about these scales makes sense. I'll bet dollars to donuts they're convincing but cheap copies of the real deal.

I guess many people don't understand the market with a scale like this Amazon 10/10. The "real deal" new production is gone and will never return. All these scales have to be at $100 is better than the not very good Chinese made RCBS M500 also listing for $100 and the M100 for $130. Or nicer than all the Ohaus 505 clones like Dillon or Hornady listing at $90. The Redding #2 at $100 and the Lyman Pro-1000 at $90. You can call all these Ohaus clones. This is the competition for the Amazon Ohaus scales.

Competition is not an Ohaus 10/10 that was stopped in production in 2001 according to their website. If you think about it Ohaus would market through their existing scale vendors. Cabelas, Midway, Natchez etc will always be faithful to their reloading manufacturers like Dillion, Hornday, RCBS etc before taking on competing stock from a company that just makes scales. That doesn't make business sense.

I don't think anyone is realistically expecting a US made Ohaus 10/10 that has been sitting in a warehouse since 2001. It just has to be more appealing than the rest of the import scales on the market. I would imagine all these scales are coming out of the same two factories in China. Much like rifle scopes. Same factory just made to different specs for the companies masquerading as manufacturers. The entire scale market is a Jerry Lewis festival from a manufacturing point of view.

For further confusion here is a new Ohaus 505-10 for $80 new from an Ohaus dealer.

http://www.scalesgalore.com/product/?product_id=27285

 

[sparker]

???

It is a shooting aid. I will reveal more when i have product to sell.

Scott

 

[Tesoro]

If anyone wants a real deal primo old 10-10 ohaus I have one in the box. I got into scale collecting a while back and after tuning my M5 havent gone further.

 

[ButterBean]

If anyone wants a real deal primo old 10-10 ohaus I have one in the box. I got into scale collecting a while back and after tuning my M5 havent gone further.

What are you asking for it?

 

[Tesoro]

150 bucks mailed to you. Its a cherry one.

 

[Flouncer]

Is there an objective accurate non-bias comparison of the Chinese clones and the Lee Safety Scale ? Curious and not implying the Lee can be tuned like an old Ohaus. But single kernel movement yes all day long.

 

[Bottom Gun]

I have two older Ohaus scales, a 10/10 and a 10/05. They are excellent scales. I've used them for decades. I have no experience with the new production but can vouch for the older scales.

 

[Leigh]

Are those scales still available...?

 

[SeabeeKen]

Read a few reviews on these 10-10 scales on Amazon and they are Chinese copies, NOT real Ohaus USA made

 

[Alexander-M]

They list two or three customer reviews for each scale. Not that the reviews always are reliable, but this small number does not really mean anything. Maybe wait until several dozen buyers have reviewed it...?

Alex

 

[BW64]

Got an older used one yesterday off flea bay. Set it up & it sucked. Looked like someone tried to refurb it & screwed the pooch. The magnet was so strong wouldn't let the arm move. Checked against 2 other scales & it was 10gn over what I set it for. It went back in a hurry. Guess you get what you pay for.

BW

 

[sbhooper]

I have an old 10-10, but since they are out of the loop, what scale would be a good one to buy, if a guy was looking?