Amazon Has Brand New Ohaus 10-10 Scales Listed

[austin870]

Anybody know anything about these scales? Amazon suddenly popped up with brand new Ohaus 10-10, 505 and 502 scales a couple of days ago. None are actually in stock but they are taking orders against a 3/22 in stock date. They are light grey and don't list any country of manufacturing. I can't find one word about these on Ohaus website. No Ohaus dealers have anything either. The part numbers don’t pop up anywhere. Google can't even find one word about them. Everything redirects back to these Amazon listings which are limited in info to say the least. A real mystery. New/Old stock or Chin/Mex?

When i first saw them they were $104 and in stock. I went ahead and ordered one to check out. They lasted about 20 minutes then gone. It should be here the 20th or so. Amazon is great about returns for me, which I pretty much expect to use here but what the heck. They popped up again for $119 not in stock but taking orders.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074VJ5LQG/?tag=accuratescom-20

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0733LX8V1/?tag=accuratescom-20

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B075VY8ZYB/?tag=accuratescom-20

 

[Dgd6mm]

Man, cool beans.

 

[dcali]

Be careful with Amazon. They have had a lot of trouble with counterfeit Chinese copies of all kinds of stuff in the last few years since they opened up their store directly to Chinese factories. I'm not saying these are fake, but check it out thoroughly when you get it.

 

[rockable]

I dont think they have die cast bodies and they may not be accurate. They certainly are not made in Florham Park, NJ. Watch out.

 

[austin870]

Be careful with Amazon. They have had a lot of trouble with counterfeit Chinese copies of all kinds of stuff in the last few years since they opened up their store directly to Chinese factories. I'm not saying these are fake, but check it out thoroughly when you get it.

I know what you are saying about independent Chinese guys with no selling history posting too good to be true items. What was interesting was they are "sold by and shipped by Amazon.com" which for me has been gold. They will certainly take the return no questions asked. There is no middle man.

 

[BillHocker]

I dont think they have die cast bodies and they may not be accurate. They certainly are not made in Florham Park, NJ. Watch out.

How else are the bodies made?

 

[Comrade Terry]

They have had a lot of trouble with counterfeit Chinese copies of all kinds of stuff in the last few years since they opened up their store directly to Chinese factories.

I got burned by that. Cost me about $150 or so. That experience has made me very leery of Amazon - and I'm a Prime member for many years.

 

[dcali]

I know what you are saying about independent Chinese guys with no selling history posting too good to be true items. What was interesting was they are "sold by and shipped by Amazon.com" which for me has been gold. They will certainly take the return no questions asked. There is no middle man.

Even then Amazon pools all the inventory from various sellers. So the good gets lumped in with the bad. You really can’t be sure - it’s a real problem. This one strikes me as probably fake given that they’re only sold on amazon and eBay, and not mentioned on the ohaus site at all.

 

[nicholst55]

If it were me, I would CALL Ohaus and ask them about these scales rather than relying on Amazon to know what they're selling.

 

[austin870]

If it were me, I would CALL Ohaus and ask them about these scales rather than relying on Amazon to know what they're selling.

Good luck. Ohaus does not sell much direct so they don't have even a reasonable customer service department. They only refer customers to dealers and want dealers to take the product questions. I got shuffled around to 4 different departments and nobody could help. Most of the departments also would not pick up the phone or let you stay on hold. It is the old leave a msg and we will get back to you when or if we please. Usually they call when your boss is standing next to you at work because Ohaus is 8-5.

Ohaus has so many sales channels no single person or department even knows what is going on. They have domestic sales, international sales, different manufacturing countries, grey market, backdoor, old stock, special runs, drop shipping etc etc etc... Then you even have a certain amount of their overseas manufacturers doing overruns and shoving things out the backdoor to their buddies.

 

[rockable]

How else are the bodies made?

Injection molded plastic, I'm guessing. I haven' had my hands on one. The reports for some time have been that the new scales are not as accurate and repeatable as the old ones.

 

[JRS]

The description states Die-Cast metal.

 

[Stud Duck]

I dont think they have die cast bodies and they may not be accurate. They certainly are not made in Florham Park, NJ. Watch out.

Correct.

I just purchased an RCBS/Ohaus 505 scale off of Ebay and guess where it was made?

The seller has a stellar reputation and return policy, so I'm not out anything. They did advise me that all the new Ohaus beam scales were coming from China.

 

[Larryh128]

If it were me, I would CALL Ohaus and ask them about these scales rather than relying on Amazon to know what they're selling.

+1

 

[Stud Duck]

The description states Die-Cast metal.

Correct.

The one I purchased appeared to be made from a cheap pot-metal and was die-cast.

 

[swadiver]

better off finding a descent old Ohaus, Ohaus made Lyman or Rcbs. usually pretty easy to find used and usually cheaper than this chinese crap. you can then send it off to Scoot Parker for a tune up and take it to another level

 

[austin870]

better off finding a descent old Ohaus, Ohaus made Lyman or Rcbs. usually pretty easy to find used and usually cheaper than this chinese crap. you can then send it off to Scoot Parker for a tune up and take it to another level

Although I am with you as a pessimist at heart I will wait and see. I can always return the 10/10 to Amazon and sit around next Saturday or Sunday night staring at stupid ebay auctions to try and grab an old one from some total stranger. Scott will be there if I want to dump another hundred into the scale so nothing lost by checking it out.

Problem with your suggestion is... to buy into the current used market a real nice and certainly decades old Ohaus made 10/10 goes for $110 to $130 plus shipping. The minty ones $150+ with no parts available. Then Scott wants another $70+ to tune it plus shipping at least to him if not both ways. For a good "not new" 10/10 scale done by Scott you are looking at well over $200. This Amazon 10/10 scale is less than have that price with a warranty and I would imagine parts available.

Everyone said Glocks sucked because they were foreign and made of plastic but they sold millions into the US market so who knows.

 

[jghoghunter]

Although I am with you as a pessimist at heart I will wait and see. I can always return the 10/10 to Amazon and sit around next Saturday or Sunday night staring at stupid ebay auctions to try and grab an old one from some total stranger. Scott will be there if I want to dump another hundred into the scale so nothing lost by checking it out.

Problem with your suggestion is... to buy into the current used market a real nice and certainly decades old Ohaus made 10/10 goes for $110 to $130 plus shipping. The minty ones $150+ with no parts available. Then Scott wants another $70+ to tune it plus shipping at least to him if not both ways. For a good "not new" 10/10 scale done by Scott you are looking at well over $200. This Amazon 10/10 scale is less than have that price with a warranty and I would imagine parts available.

Everyone said Glocks sucked because they were foreign and made of plastic but they sold millions into the US market so who knows.

You get what you pay for!!!! There is a reason decades old scales still demand premium money, that reason is they work and are consistent. Its back to you get what you pay for.

 

[austin870]

You get what you pay for!!!! There is a reason decades old scales still demand premium money, that reason is they work and are consistent. Its back to you get what you pay for.

Actually "old" scales don't demand a premium. Scales that have high demand and low supply do. Decades old 10/10 scales demand premium money because there is no new 10/10 production competition so demand exceeds supply. There are tons of the new 505 clones out there so old US 505's and 502's are not demanding a premium unless they are minty/collector condition.

New imported 505 clones go for more than the old US 505's on ebay so does that make them better? There are individual stores/dealers that sell more new reloading beam scales in a week than ebay sells old ones for less. If they come out with a new but not perfect 10/10 competitor prices will drop on all but the minty ones.

 

[sparker]

Although I am with you as a pessimist at heart I will wait and see. I can always return the 10/10 to Amazon and sit around next Saturday or Sunday night staring at stupid ebay auctions to try and grab an old one from some total stranger. Scott will be there if I want to dump another hundred into the scale so nothing lost by checking it out.

Problem with your suggestion is... to buy into the current used market a real nice and certainly decades old Ohaus made 10/10 goes for $110 to $130 plus shipping. The minty ones $150+ with no parts available. Then Scott wants another $70+ to tune it plus shipping at least to him if not both ways. For a good "not new" 10/10 scale done by Scott you are looking at well over $200. This Amazon 10/10 scale is less than have that price with a warranty and I would imagine parts available.

Everyone said Glocks sucked because they were foreign and made of plastic but they sold millions into the US market so who knows.

The scales that I tune and supply are warranted for my lifetime. I of course keep parts for these scales.
I typically have 1&1/2 hours or so in a scale by the time I’m satisfied with it. Sometimes, I go through all the motions and find that I’m still not happy with it. Then I replace the beam and start again.
I believe I charge a fair price for a quality scale.
I have customers who are rightly unhappy for the long wait time. I also am working on my level of communication. There are only so many hours in the day.

If the Chinese started producing rifle barrel blanks for half the cost of a Krieger, would you buy one?

Scott Parker
Single Kernel Scales