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"Also ran" cartridges

I'm bored and have been contemplating the current state of our collective interest (rifles and cartridges). We are members of a rather exclusive club. Discussions involving the 6mm BR and .284 Shehane are commonplace here but out in the "real world" of shooting, we're speaking Pig Latin. Let's face it: we're a relatively small and exclusive group. Kinda like every specialty interest (cars, art, etc) we discuss and argue minute details.

Recently I've been thinking about a handy firearm to deal with vermin around the house. Possums, coyotes, feral cats, skunks, whatever. More muscle than a rimfire but nothing truly high power. Truthfully, a lever action in 218 Bee or 25-20 would be perfect for my purposes but good luck finding such a rifle at an affordable price. These cartridges served a purpose in their day and still could but now they're gasping for air. But that's not my point.

Here's my point:

Some excellent chamberings have been relegated to obscurity or cult status due to no fault of their own. Some were mated to the wrong rifle. Others received a bad reputation without any actual proof. And still others were just ahead of their time. Many of the 100+ year old cartridges can and should be supremely useful today but instead have been pushed aside.

I've never encountered a situation where a 250-3000 wouldn't be everything needed to plant a white tail deer at ranges that 98% of all deer are actually shot.

My .17 Remington barrel didn't foul after a dozen shots and wind didn't blow the bullets into the next county.

A 6mm Remington will do everything a .243 will do...and a teeny bit more. I love mine. Yeah, yeah I know. Short action length issue.

The 30-338 (or 308 Norma) is what the 300 Winchester should have been to begin with.

The 5mm Remington never was given a real chance.

Charles Newton was a ballistic genious but gun powder technology hadn't caught up in time.

Examples are numerous.

Again, I'm mostly rambling. Sorry to anyone whose pet cartridge I've insulted. No harm meant but I'll accept the flames.
 
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No flames here, it makes sense to me. Wildcatting can create some great new cartridges or match the performance of some older ones in a modern way, but sometimes you have to say that cartridge does what it needs to do, if it works, no need to fix it. Seems the older I get, the farther before my time is where my interests lie. Lots of interesting things in the gun world the last 100 years!
 
AFAIK the bullets suitable to the .218, 25/20, and 22 Hornet (Those projectiles that are usually the most accurate in the original chamberings) are not very user friendly "around the house".....i.e. they have a greater ricochet potential than modern designed bullets. A .20 Vartarg or .17 Fireball would fill your needs. However, IMO, a .17 HMR is the best thing since sliced bread for the job. I actually favor it's little brother the .17 HM2. It works so amazingly well "around the house" that it spends more time at friends homes than at my homestead. Dozens of GH's have been one-shot/one-kill with-in 80 yards.
 
AFAIK the bullets suitable to the .218, 25/20, and 22 Hornet (Those projectiles that are usually the most accurate in the original chamberings) are not very user friendly "around the house".....i.e. they have a greater ricochet potential than modern designed bullets. A .20 Vartarg or .17 Fireball would fill your needs. However, IMO, a .17 HMR is the best thing since sliced bread for the job. I actually favor it's little brother the .17 HM2. It works so amazingly well "around the house" that it spends more time at friends homes than at my homestead. Dozens of GH's have been one-shot/one-kill with-in 80 yards.
Got to agree with LH--picked up a .17 Mach2 years ago and bought up a few thousand rounds when it was quite affordable and it is the gun behind the door. Recently dispatched a coyote who thought my Jack Russell Terrier looked good for lunch-sure it was only an 80 yard shot but Mr. Yote is still looking for his 72 virgins and my stupid Jack still thinks he can take on coyotes.
It has also dispatched numerous raccoons and skunk that venture in and don't take the hint to leave.
All that said, without the availability of ammunition I would probably look elsewhere today - most likely the .17 HMR simply because of ammo .
JMHO

Gary
 
220 Swift and 6mm Remington are two of my favorite three cartridges. OK, the 6BR is my third, just to show you that I'm not that set in my ways!
Dan
 
Though the hyper rimfires are great medicine I just hate to be held hostage by the availability of factory ammo. I go for stuff I can load for like the 222. It is just about as gone as lots of other fine cartridges. That brings us back to the issue LH Smith alluded to of bullet suitability. That has always stood in the way of the fine 25 calibers and the 270 to some extent.

What about the 204 Ruger?

Joe
 
Savage or Stevens built a ton of over and under breakopen rifle shotgun combos. If I recall they made one in 22 Hornet over 20 ga. Would make a good vermin combo.
 
My "also ran" cartridge is the .22 Hornet. It fits the "ideal" description of an old school cartridge that is great for lots of chores around the house, or at least that's what I told myself when I bought my second one, a Browning 1885. Beautiful rifle.
In reality my ugly little Marlin 917V and its predecessor (a 21" TC Rifle in 17 Remington) have actually drawn more blood than the pretty little Browning.
 
The cartridge that has dispatched more men good and bad and vermin large and small is the 44-40 Winchester.
 
My "also ran" cartridge is the .22 Hornet. It fits the "ideal" description of an old school cartridge that is great for lots of chores around the house, or at least that's what I told myself when I bought my second one, a Browning 1885. Beautiful rifle.
In reality my ugly little Marlin 917V and its predecessor (a 21" TC Rifle in 17 Remington) have actually drawn more blood than the pretty little Browning.
One that's recently captured my interest is the K Hornet, a buddy has one and it certainly has an edge over the parent case.
But I'll stick with my 223 suppressed Model 7 spitting 50gr BT's for "round house" duties.
The joys of living in the country.
 
Marlin occasionally makes a run of their model 1894 classic in one of the old calibers; I have one in 25-20 that fills the bill perfectly and, bought used, didn't break the bank. My other go to for around the homestead use is a bolt gun rechambered to K-Hornet.
 

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