Alpha Munitions 6mm Dasher brass

[SAP]

Lapua formed to dasher goes through a soft firing or two to get formed. If you soft fire Alpha once or twice, it does the same thing, that is, work harden.

As far as the difficulty in seating a primer, yes, it takes a firing to loosen a bit so that you can seat easily. At the same time, it’s hardening like lapua as it distorts.

I’ve pushed this stuff pretty hard and haven’t had issues. Bad luck on messing up your rifles. Through 3 lots of this stuff and haven’t had a hiccup.

It is chamfered, however. My original point stands. Take a K&M uniformer and see how much material is removed.

I to have been testing out of my multiple dashers and putting them through the ringers. I did the same procedures as you. Light load first initial time and all was good from there on. I have been pounding on the brass and loading them hot. I have kept every target and have currently (36) firings on the brass and still running them with no issues.

 

[Cuando]

Short answer:

Two case ruptures and $1000 in rifle damage. Same rifle, same load, same barrel, but different brass is problem free and has been for tens of thousands of rounds.

Drive by, cancel culture at it's finest!

Take a huge hay-maker at Alpha, post vague details when asked about it and deflect any dissenters with a little virtue signaling (ie I'm not new at this duh).

My take is, you went directly to the exact load you'd worked up with Lapua, blew a primer, broke your Jewel trigger and pitted a bolt face.

Then you did it again.

I bet Alpha was courteous enough to not laugh at you.

 

[Dave Marshall]

Drive by, cancel culture at it's finest!

Take a huge hay-maker at Alpha, post vague details when asked about it and deflect any dissenters with a little virtue signaling (ie I'm not new at this duh).

My take is, you went directly to the exact load you'd worked up with Lapua, blew a primer, broke your Jewel trigger and pitted a bolt face.

Then you did it again.

I bet Alpha was courteous enough to not laugh at you.

I bet you’re 100% wrong.

Anyone with half a brain could search this forum and find an entire thread about it.

Bullshit posts like yours are why I have zero interest in repeating the story again. You weren’t there when it happened and you know exactly nothing about it. I don’t need to explain myself to you, or to anyone else.

I offered my own opinion on Alpha brass, nothing more.

 

[Old Navy]

Ruptured brass causing a $1000 worth of damage would be an interesting story indeed.

 

[Dave Marshall]

Aluminum bottom metal/magwell for a T2k. $500 each from Macmillan.

That’s just the price of the replacement part. I didn’t mention gunsmithing, tooling, or incidental parts. Plus 6 months of trying to figure out the cause.

 

[Old Navy]

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Aluminum bottom metal/magwell for a T2k. $500 each from Macmillan.

That’s just the price of the replacement part. I didn’t mention gunsmithing, tooling, or incidental parts. Plus 6 months of trying to figure out the cause.

Dam! That is ugly. I only seriously ruptured one case. It was with once fired Federal in my RRA AR-15. Lucky for me there is no bottom metal. It blew all the pieces out of the mag all over the bench. Locked up the bolt but only destroyed the ejector and extractor. Seems there was a bad lot of ammo with a recall on it. This is old news but to this day I don't reload Federal. I know things have changed on their ammo.

 

[Cuando]

I bet you’re 100% wrong.

Anyone with half a brain could search this forum and find an entire thread about it.

Bullshit posts like yours are why I have zero interest in repeating the story again. You weren’t there when it happened and you know exactly nothing about it. I don’t need to explain myself to you, or to anyone else.

I offered my own opinion on Alpha brass, nothing more.

You have zero interest repeating it because you wanna shit talk Alpha.

 

[Dave Marshall]

You have zero interest repeating it because you wanna shit talk Alpha.

I offered my opinion of their products and customer service based on my own experience.

Why don’t you do the same instead of attacking me and making unfounded claims?

 

[Willow]

Haven't seen their Dasher brass but their 6XC brass is head and shoulders above Norma in consistency and strength.

 

[Dave Marshall]

Haven't seen their Dasher brass but their 6XC brass is head and shoulders above Norma in consistency and strength.

I disagree. Their 6xc brass is what failed in my rifle.

I’m glad you had good luck with it though.

 

[gman47564]

I use their brass in a 6mm creedmoor and have had no issues with it.. excellent brass in my opinion.. as always when switching brands of brass its time to start over with load development do to differences in volume..

 

[lawman29]

Anyone with half a brain could search this forum and find an entire thread about it.

And if you had half a brain you would simply "paste" a link to the thread so those of us with less than half a brain could find it and then go "click" and review said information contained therein.....

 

[Dave Marshall]

And if you had half a brain you would simply "paste" a link to the thread so those of us with less than half a brain could find it and then go "click" and review said information contained therein.....

Everything I’ve ever posted on this forum can be found with less than 4 “clicks”. You don’t even have to use your keyboard.

Forgive me if I don’t spend my time pointing people towards discussions I’ve already had several times and am not interested in repeating.

 

[Cuando]

You're shit talking Alpha with nothing to substantiate your claim.

Back it up or stfu.

 

[Dave Marshall]

You're shit talking Alpha with nothing to substantiate your claim.

Back it up or stfu.

Ok, fanboy....

 

[Willow]

I disagree. Their 6xc brass is what failed in my rifle.

I’m glad you had good luck with it though.

Oh well, that sucks. It's the best 6XC brass I've ever seen and I include Peterson in that comment. I've got to trim Norma brass every 3 firings on a moderate load. No such drama with the Alpha, the stuff I've got is in a different league.

 

[Ledd Slinger]

Short answer:

Two case ruptures and $1000 in rifle damage. Same rifle, same load, same barrel...

ALWAYS start low and work back up when you change ANY component in a load recipe.

The fact that you had a case rupture and continued to use the same load in the Alpha brass until you got a second case rupture resulting in major damage to your rifle.....
Well I don’t know what to say there. Can’t even fathom why a person would ever continue after the first rupture? I think you might need to start owning up to your own errors in reloading procedures and judgement and stop trying to point the finger to blame someone else. Even if it was the fault of the brass, the fact that you continued loading it the same was a major mistake with nobody to blame but yourself.

Mistakes happen in this sport. We are literally making bombs on our benches and hoping we don’t get hurt when we ignite them in a small metal contraption right in front of our face. Hopefully you learned a valuable lesson because you are lucky to have escaped with only damage to the equipment. People have lost eyes, fingers, and even died making the same reloading error you made.

 

[Tommie]

Kids! Don’t make me stop this car!

 

[Old Navy]

ALWAYS start low and work back up when you change ANY component in a load recipe.

The fact that you had a case rupture and continued to use the same load in the Alpha brass until you got a second case rupture resulting in major damage to your rifle.....
Well I don’t know what to say there. Can’t even fathom why a person would ever continue after the first rupture? I think you might need to start owning up to your own errors in reloading procedures and judgement and stop trying to point the finger to blame someone else. Even if it was the fault of the brass, the fact that you continued loading it the same was a major mistake with nobody to blame but yourself.

Mistakes happen in this sport. We are literally making bombs on our benches and hoping we don’t get hurt when we ignite them in a small metal contraption right in front of our face. Hopefully you learned a valuable lesson because you are lucky to have escaped with only damage to the equipment. People have lost eyes, fingers, and even died making the same reloading error you made.

And I say all of this from experience because I made the same exact mistake as you many years ago. I was pushing a load and changing components in the recipe without backing off to work back up. I was also lucky to only escape with equipment damage. Got a face full of gases but nothing hurt on me. Blew the bolt face completely apart, disabled my trigger, blew the floor plate open, and the bullet flew apart in the barrel causing a shotgun blast to come from the muzzle and destroy my chronograph. But I didn’t blame anyone else. Could have been a bad piece of brass or maybe a bad bullet jacket that came apart because it happened on the 4th shot of a 5 shot group, but I knew I was at max pressures and should have backed off to work back up. All my own fault. Lesson learned.

Nice three point.

 

[Dave Marshall]

ALWAYS start low and work back up when you change ANY component in a load recipe.

The fact that you had a case rupture and continued to use the same load in the Alpha brass until you got a second case rupture resulting in major damage to your rifle.....
Well I don’t know what to say there. Can’t even fathom why a person would ever continue after the first rupture? I think you might need to start owning up to your own errors in reloading procedures and judgement and stop trying to point the finger to blame someone else. Even if it was the fault of the brass, the fact that you continued loading it the same was a major mistake with nobody to blame but yourself.

Mistakes happen in this sport. We are literally making bombs on our benches and hoping we don’t get hurt when we ignite them in a small metal contraption right in front of our face. Hopefully you learned a valuable lesson because you are lucky to have escaped with only damage to the equipment. People have lost eyes, fingers, and even died making the same reloading error you made.

And I say all of this from experience because I made the same exact mistake as you many years ago. I was pushing a load and changing components in the recipe without backing off to work back up. I was also lucky to only escape with equipment damage. Got a face full of gases but nothing hurt on me. Blew the bolt face completely apart, disabled my trigger, blew the floor plate open, and the bullet flew apart in the barrel causing a shotgun blast to come from the muzzle and destroy my chronograph. But I didn’t blame anyone else. Could have been a bad piece of brass or maybe a bad bullet jacket that came apart because it happened on the 4th shot of a 5 shot group, but I knew I was at max pressures and should have backed off to work back up. All my own fault. Lesson learned.

Congrats on resurrecting an old thread just for the sake of sharing your wealth of knowledge about all things reloading.

In my post that you quoted, I guess you missed where I wrote “short answer” This simply means I didn’t feel like going through the whole story again, and I still don’t feel like it. So, heres another short answer: I spent several hundred dollars on parts and solutions suggested to me by the brass manufacturer to solve the problem. There were many texts and telephone calls back and forth between they and I. I didn’t start blaming the brass until I was quite sure what happened, and not publicly until they refused to acknowledge that there might be a problem.

The truth is you don’t know anything about me, what actually happened, or my reloading experience. You’re out of line. Welcome to ignore.