A Eureka moment with my Trijicon RMR

[Tesoro]

Big fan of Trijis and started using them on brush guns, and on some handguns for shooting steel at distance because my eyes are now at the fuzzy front sight stage of life.

What I just realized, and what is rarely mentioned, is that the Triji has magnification properties of around 1.5x. Triji states there is no magnification. Maybe with the std size ones there is not, but with the mini there is. I will have to check on my std size ones.

I recently bought a new 1911 9mm which has co-witness sights infront of the optic, and if i turn it off I found out I can see the sights like I had 18 year old eyes again. Crazy! I had only test fired a dozen mags previously, ignoring the irons and just focusing on the target rather than the dot like you are supposed to do.

An interesting effect I also noticed yesterday is that when I was sweeping to shoot at multiple 25 yd targets on a dirt berm using the irons, it appeared like I was shooting thru a moving 'bubble', where I noticed the areas outside my line of sight were smaller and thus creating this bubble effect. I am not sure if I was seeing this effect outside of the glass, or on the edge of the glass, as it has some curvature. Will have to check this next time. it was noticeable when I was sweeping.

Anyhow, the above might be old news to some but I am happy to be able to use irons again with ' assistance'. Maybe this can help someone. I am 90% rifle guy and I don't want to allocate the time and expense to learn how to shoot defensive pistol all over again using a dot.

 

[ronsatspokane]

You can do the same thing with a $15 pair of cheaters that bring the front sight into crisp focus. That said, I run red dots of various brands and types on all my pistols these days. Basic ones on target guns, more sophisticated ones with shake alive on tactical guns and sealed ones w/shake alive on anything I pack in the woods like my bear gun.

 

[Tesoro]

You can do the same thing with a $15 pair of cheaters that bring the front sight into crisp focus. That said, I run red dots of various brands and types on all my pistols these days. Basic ones on target guns, more sophisticated ones with shake alive on tactical guns and sealed ones w/shake alive on anything I pack in the woods like my bear gun.

You mean wearing the cheaters? if so then the target is blurred. Plus I might not have time to put them on when a bandito runs out into the middle of my path.

I was thinking about a custom manufactured shrouded 'n armored light magnifying lens that would mount using a rmr base! Ideally swaro glass. lol

 

[linebaugh]

I like the way you think. I just bought an SRO yesterday. My 2nd red dot and like you its because of vision but I was immediately won over after my first dot. Its a damn sight more accurate than irons. On a customized Ruger Mk2 I can demolish a chew can off of a sand bag at 50yrds.

Id like to hear about the pistol that sight sits on if you dont mind. Im a CZ guy entertaining another purchase and am slightly open to the dbl stack 1911/2011 type guns.

 

[ronsatspokane]

You mean wearing the cheaters? if so then the target is blurred. Plus I might not have time to put them on when a bandito runs out into the middle of my path.

I was thinking about a custom manufactured shrouded 'n armored light magnifying lens that would mount using a rmr base! Ideally swaro glass. lol

When you focus on the front sight the target will blur regardless of ones quality of vision. No one has the depth of field required to bring both the target and the front sight into sharp focus. Unless of course the target is so close that you need to clean the powder burns off of it when done shooting.

 

[GetReal]

The point of a red dot is that there really is nothing to learn to use a red dot well.

Put the dot where you want the bullet to go.And pull the trigger. I'm not trying to be snarkly or argumentative .... that is the actual manual of arms for using a red dot.

There's nothing to align like a front sight & rear sight , and the dot doesn't have to even be in the perfect middle of the window.

 

[Tesoro]

When you focus on the front sight the target will blur regardless of ones quality of vision. No one has the depth of field required to bring both the target and the front sight into sharp focus. Unless of course the target is so close that you need to clean the powder burns off of it when done shooting.

Yes but i am not walking around with 1.5x cheaters when cc!!

 

[Tesoro]

The point of a red dot is that there really is nothing to learn to use a red dot well.

Put the dot where you want the bullet to go.And pull the trigger. I'm not trying to be snarkly or argumentative .... that is the actual manual of arms for using a red dot.

There's nothing to align like a front sight & rear sight , and the dot doesn't have to even be in the perfect middle of the window.

I have 50 yrs of iron sight handgun shooting. Red dots are not something u automatically adopt without 1000’s of rounds n countless hrs to re-training. I am talking about draw n shoot in seconds to align sight n shoot target. I dont want to allocate time n bucks to learn how to shoot all over again!

 

[Tesoro]

I got back fm range today n had time to compare Trijis.
The little one definitely magnifies. The bigger std one actually de-magnifies a hair, but not as drastic as the magnification of the little one. The outward lens curvature looks about the same to naked eye. There ya go. The std one on left is actually larger than looks in this pic

 

[ronsatspokane]

Yes but i am not walking around with 1.5x cheaters when cc!!

Neither am I. That's why I have red dots.

However, I do have a pair of shooting glasses with bifocals in the bottom in case I need to do detail close work while at the range.

 

[Tesoro]

Neither am I. That's why I have red dots.

However, I do have a pair of shooting glasses with bifocals in the bottom in case I need to do detail close work while at the range.

No detail work for moi with handguns. Center mass only

 

[GetReal]

I have 50 yrs of iron sight handgun shooting. Red dots are not something u automatically adopt without 1000’s of rounds n countless hrs to re-training. I am talking about draw n shoot in seconds to align sight n shoot target. I dont want to allocate time n bucks to learn how to shoot all over again!

Wow. I picked up the red dot in less than 500 rounds. Self taught. I'm talking about consistent A zone hits in 1.5 seconds. The essential concept is you look where you want the bullet to go and bring the gun up into your line of sight.Place the red dot over the target and pull the trigger. THERE IS NO ALIGNING SIGHT(S). None.

Its not a difficult concept. I've taught it to novice shooters in a couple hours. I think you're selling yourself short and you could very easily pick up a red dot. With fifty years of handgun experience , you can do this.