8.6 Creedmoor or 8.6 BLK or 8.6 Blackout?
November 18, 2021 by
AJ 8 Comments
8.6 BLK next to a 300 BLK (image from
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What is a 8.6 Creedmoor?
First off, it is now officially called the 8.6 BLK or 8.6 Blackout, dubbed such by the very creator Kevin Brittingham. Kevin, owner of
Q and inventor of the .300 Blackout cartridge first came up the with idea of a .338 caliber cartridge like the
.338 Federal, but better because it has a shorter 6.5 Creedmoor based case, so it could accommodate larger and longer bullets than the
.338 Federal in normal magazines, which would mean it could provide for a cartridge that could be effective at both subsonic and supersonic muzzle velocities. Not only does this owe for interesting low-noise subsonic rifles, but also for short barrel, high-punch rifles and even a cartridge being able to feed in a semi-auto configuration.
Back in 2018 when Kevin initially developed the cartridge and worked with the idea, trying to get Hornady to start manufacturing the cartridge, he intended to call it the 8.6 Creedmoor, but in June 2021 when Q made the official announcement of the cartridge on their Instagram account, they dubbed it the more appropriate 8.6 BLK or 8.6 Blackout, owing to their own unique .300 Blackout, but necked up to accommodate the 8.6 caliber bullet, and also uniquely identifying it as separate from the
Creedmoor sports developed cartridges like the 6.5mm Creedmoor and the 6mm Creedmoor.
The reason why Q and
Hornady are only now officially bringing it to market in 2021, is mainly because of the ammo crisis that hit since early 2019, which meant that they could not even keep up with demand of current cartridge ammo, let alone start manufacturing or marketing a new cartridge.
Brass
Initially to create brass for 8.6 BLK cartridges, one could cut shorter and neck down high quality 6.5mm Creedmoor brass with a good
full length sizing die and enough
case lube. Thankfully though, if you are a litle patient, both Q and
Hornady, should have brass available soon.
A rare and elusive 8.6 BLK case, Image from
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Why a New Cartridge
Yes, it feels like every week someone is just necking some other cartridge up or down and “bringing out a whole new cartridge”, but this time, it is really a game-changer. The 8.6 BLK is not just an improvement on previous designs or a wildcat, it changes what was thought best for hunting cartridges and tactical military cartridges all together. It shows that large long bullets can work out of small cases, and even better, high energy effective hunt kills can be made out of short barrels, even at what would be considered long range distances for hunting.
Create Your Own
There aren’t really any large scale manufacturers making a 8.6 BLK Factory Rifle yet, however, if you jump on the waiting list now, you may be able to snag one of the early ones when they become available soon from Q, or you can even just buy a barrel conversion from them if you already have a Fix by Q.
The other manufacturers should jump on the band wagon offering 8.6 BLK chambered barrel pretty soon after Hornady starts making the brass available, and you can even have your own build on a .308 bolt face, standard-length action, by chambering a .338 / 8.6mm barrel in it once reamers become available (just remember the tight twist rate needed to make the most of this cartridge).
8.6 BLK Twist Rate
Very fast twist rates like 1:4 and even 1:3 are used for the 8.6 BLK, as this provides greater energy at supersonic velocities, and greater accuracy at subsonic velocities, thus enabling the use and stabilization of such long and large bullets out of such short barrels. The fast twist rate, also ensures good bullet expansion even at slower velocities.
8.6 BLK Ballistics
When loaded with a 210gr Barnes TTSX bullet at 2450fps from the short 12.5″ barrel, you only have around 1.4 MOA more drop at an incredible 300 yards than a usual 308 Win with a 168gr bullet would have, but with a whopping 300 ft/lbs more energy on target, and that all from a rifle short enough to fit in your backpack. That is just to show what it can achieve, however we doubt many people would hunt at such long range with it.
8.6 BLK for Hunting
Although very practical as a new do-all military cartridge, hunting is where the 8.6 BLK really shines. It redefines the general puspose hunting and utility rifle genre. Even during testing and R&D hunts, Kevin Brittingham and the guys from Q have been making waves online with their small Fix 8.6 BLK taking down everything from smaller CXP1 sized animals like a Black Backed Jackal, CXP2 sized game like deer, CXP3 sized animals like a large Kudu bull, all the way through to the very large and thick-skinned CXP4 sized African Cape Buffalo. Proving the versatility of the cartridge and rifle platform for a single, compact, do-it-all hunting rifle.
Yes we know top right is a Fix in 6.5 Creedmoor, but 8.6 BLK will do it to, and the rest are 8.6 BLK (images from
Facebook)
8.6 BLK Barrel Length
Because of the aim of the whole 8.6 BLK development was a compact utility / hunting rifle, it is designed to work well in short, and I mean real short barrel configurations. With Kevin doing most of the 8.6 BLK testing in a 12.5″ barrel, like can be seen in the hunting photos above, they even have a ultra-short and compact 8″ barrel version, still apparently packing more energy at 600 yards, than a .45 ACP round has at the muzzle, unbelievable or in the words of the Q-team themselves, unpossible.
The 8 inch barrel for the 8.6 BLK (image from
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8.6 BLK vs .338 Federal
Most people that first read or heard about the 8.6 BLK, quickly asked why, given the similarity or superiority (as they thought) of the already available .338 Federal cartridge. Well, the 8.6 BLK is the quieter and more efficient version of a .338 Federal, basically with a trimmed back case and improved shoulder so you can get longer heavier subsonic bullets than you can with the .338 Federal. Overall it’s a more efficient and versatile design than the .338 Federal.
Whilst the case length of the .338 Federal is 2.015”, the 8.6 BLK case is 1.685” in length, allowing the ability to run heavy subsonic loads, 280 to 360 grains or more, whilst the longer 338 Federal case will put the ogive of those long projectiles back inside the case, which will perform badly.
Although having a smaller case capacity, the 8.6 BLK offers more consistent ignition of the powder, which gives you more consistent performance, especially with those heavy subsonic loads. Another big upside due to the shorter case and cartridge length, the 8.6 BLK will feed out of .308 Winchester length magazines, allowing greater compatibility. Even the fact that the 8.6 BLK uses the same bolt face as the .308 Win, means you can change your barrel on your Fix or other current rifle and have your own 8.6 BLK.
Lastly, when looking a long bullets like the Berger 300gr Hybrid with a nose length of 0.955 inches, but the case to OAL length of the .338 Federal is only 0.785 inches, meaning that those bullest or similar cannot be reliably fed from a magazine, whereas it can in the 8.6 BLK.
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Here is the original link complete with photographs. Beware of idiotic spelling mistakes:
https://www.loaddevelopment.com/8-6-creedmoor-or-8-6-blk-or-8-6-blackout/
Here are a couple of the photos attached to the above article:
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8.6 BLK next to the .300 Blackout
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8.6 BLK dimension drawing
