700 Remington Bolthandles

[Rustystud]

Remington has made several variations to their bolt handles. The current RR prefix serial number actions come with a bolt that can not be removed and repositioned as the finger strap and caming surfaces are to far out of spec to be made workable. Don't be surprised when the bolt welders out there refuse to fix your bolt primary extraction and bolt timing issues with what came from the factory. The junk has taken a turn for the worst. Don't think they will ever wake up or recover.
Nat Lambeth

 

[carlsbad]

I always use an aftermarket handle. they are not expensive. I don't like annealing the cocking ramp with weld heat either. --Jerry

 

[Rockchuck]

Long rifles inc just did one for me work out fine #rr action. They do great work

 

[Bill Score]

I'll second Rustystud on the RR receivers. I have a 700 Long Range in 300WM. Bought it new, never grouped for shit and had terrible extraction. Bedding and Timney helped a little, but not much. Had it rebarreled and during the process got a call from the gunsmith doing it, said the action was way out of spec and that he would need to do some work on that too. When I got it back, it shot very well, but the extraction issues persisted. Sent it up to Long Rifles, Inc in Sturgis, SD, that solved the primary extraction. I won't buy another RR prefix action.

 

[Kracken McGraw]

Was this RR prefix a certain time of a production run or is it all current produced 700 actions?

 

[carlsbad]

Just to add balance: I have bulit a lot of RR actions. To be fair, I now replace the bolt with a PTG bolt and ream the boltway. I end up with smooth cycling, excellent primary extraction and perfect timing of both the extraction and trigger engagement.

I find the lugs to be very close, needing less than .001" clean up. The face is less square, sometimes needing .002" to clean up. The threads on RR actions rarely need anything done to them. I have opened some up to 1.125" threads but the original threads were well centered on the boltway.

In other words, after I ream the boltway, I spend 10 minutes setting up in the lathe and 5 minutes truing 2 surfaces.

--Jerry

 

[carlsbad]

This RR prefix shot 150-10x in shifting winds yesterday.

 

[butchlambert]

I'll second Rustystud on the RR receivers. I have a 700 Long Range in 300WM. Bought it new, never grouped for shit and had terrible extraction. Bedding and Timney helped a little, but not much. Had it rebarreled and during the process got a call from the gunsmith doing it, said the action was way out of spec and that he would need to do some work on that too. When I got it back, it shot very well, but the extraction issues persisted. Sent it up to Long Rifles, Inc in Sturgis, SD, that solved the primary extraction. I won't buy another RR prefix action.

Strange? Most RR prefix receivers are very straight. The bolt timing and extraction are the issue. I know that they are not all perfect, but I would worry if a smith told me the receivers were junky. I would find another smith.

 

[swd]

The RR's I've worked on mirror Carlsbad's. Lug's and face need less work than a lot of older receivers but the pre extraction is all over the place.

 

[GenePoole]

The RR's I've worked on mirror Carlsbad's. Lug's and face need less work than a lot of older receivers but the pre extraction is all over the place.

All over the wrong place. I have yet to find one with any decent primary extraction.

As for other dimensions, RR actions are better than most R700 actions of any vintage WRT raceway, integral and bolt lugs, and face, but the threaded part of the tenon has been much less than concentric to the raceway in the handful that I have dealt with. I've had to open some of them to 1.0825 (0.020 over) to get them back on track. 0.010-0.015 over is the norm though.

 

[swd]

All over the wrong place. I have yet to find one with any decent primary extraction.

As for other dimensions, RR actions are better than most R700 actions of any vintage WRT raceway, integral and bolt lugs, and face, but the threaded part of the tenon has been much less than concentric to the raceway in the handful that I have dealt with. I've had to open some of them to 1.0825 (0.020 over) to get them back on track. 0.010-0.015 over is the norm though.

I bought 4 RR actions a while back. 1 had really good pre extraction, 1 was middle of the road the other two sucked.

 

[Boyd L.]

....The current RR prefix serial number actions come with a bolt that can not be removed and repositioned as the finger strap and caming surfaces are to far out of spec to be made workable. Don't be surprised when the bolt welders out there refuse to fix your bolt primary extraction and bolt timing issues with what came from the factory...

I just received my second RR series bolt with the factory handle repositioned from Dan Armstrong. I haven't tried it for extraction yet, I haven't even barreled the receiver yet, but if the second is like the first, it will do just fine.

 

[SRM]

Bought my wife the tactical .223 9 tw , RR prefix. The bolt nose felt strange in the hand so I dialed it in the lathe. It had over .020” runout behind the lugs. Sent to Remington for warranty and the new bolt has a little dent or ding next to the pin hole.
Another strange aspect is chamber length is 1.792”. Headspace is barely ok.

 

[boltfluter]

Bought my wife the tactical .223 9 tw , RR prefix. The bolt nose felt strange in the hand so I dialed it in the lathe. It had over .020” runout behind the lugs. Sent to Remington for warranty and the new bolt has a little dent or ding next to the pin hole.
Another strange aspect is chamber length is 1.792”. Headspace is barely ok.

Sounds like a good time to bush the firing pin hole. Wish Remington would get their act together before the boat sinks for good.

Paul

 

[mike a]

View attachment 1121444 This RR prefix shot 150-10x in shifting winds yesterday.

Jerry, nice stock. Is that fidelback maple? Mike

 

[carlsbad]

I guess. It is a stock I got from a forum member. It wasn't sold to me as anything special.

 

[butchlambert]

Bought my wife the tactical .223 9 tw , RR prefix. The bolt nose felt strange in the hand so I dialed it in the lathe. It had over .020” runout behind the lugs. Sent to Remington for warranty and the new bolt has a little dent or ding next to the pin hole.
Another strange aspect is chamber length is 1.792”. Headspace is barely ok.

That is probably the Rockwell tester penetrator dent.

 

[SRM]

That is probably the Rockwell tester penetrator dent.

It’s not even. Never seen this before in a new bolt. I’ll get a pic of it

 

[SRM]

Sounds like a good time to bush the firing pin hole. Wish Remington would get their act together before the boat sinks for good.

Paul

Now I have three in need. Want to wait for the new barrel and true everything in one go on this one.

 

[SRM]