6ppc glued actions

[JRS]

I can remember Lee offering that Boyd. McMillan offered that option at one time also. At some point, experience proved to the McMillan's that pillars were not necessary.

 

[johara1]

What i found was that the JB weld was soft to where i could peel it off the Devcon bedding with a chisel. Now with the liquid Devcon it is an other story. jim

 

[johara1]

My response was directed only, to your "newer adhesives like JB". JB Weld is great for many things Boyd. A combustion chamber certainly isn't one of them. As a matter of fact, JB Weld advises it NOT be used in a combustion chamber. It's pretty strong stuff, but, won't withstand pressures like that. With the more modern stocks and bedding materials available today, glueing and screwing has only one advantage. It's the easiest and quickest way to seat the action.

I think you will find there is a lot more work to glueing and screwing an action in. It sure isn't the easiest and quickest…….. jim

 

[A j shooter]

Could weight have anything to do with just glue ins no screws.
Just asking
I have a glue in only
And a screw pillar only both shoot great

 

[johara1]

Glue in is or should be stress free,and pillared if done right should be the same. both are are the best i think from the results on target………. jim

 

[Toby Bradshaw]

Could weight have anything to do with just glue ins no screws.
Just asking
I have a glue in only
And a screw pillar only both shoot great

It's not so much the weight of the screws, but the weight of the stock needed to support the screws (or pillars). This only matters on 10.5# guns, where less weight in the stock means more weight in the barrel where it can do some good. A straight glue-in prevents the screws being tightened too much and thereby adding stress to an otherwise stress-free bedding. Screws don't provide any useful function if the glue is working.

 

[BoydAllen]

Some years back, there was an article in Precision Shooting about the origin of the fiberglass stock. (IT may be in the Benchrest Primer) It seems that Chet Brown and Lee Six were partners in that development, and that before pillar bedding was being done, early on, they found that they had a problem with customers over tightening action screws, which when done on their hollow shell stocks, distorted things considerably, with undesirable effects. At that point they went to pillar bedding to prevent the problem. On thing about glue ins, before there were trigger brackets, stocks that were used with glue in bedding jobs had holes that aligned with the trigger pin locations in actons (Remington pattern triggers). This allowed rifles' triggers to be removed and reinstalled after their actions had been glued in, I have an old rifle built on a Shilen DGA, glued into a Lee Six thumbhole stock that is built that way.

 

[johara1]

Could weight have anything to do with just glue ins no screws.
Just asking
I have a glue in only
And a screw pillar only both shoot great

It's not so much the weight of the screws, but the weight of the stock needed to support the screws (or pillars). This only matters on 10.5# guns, where less weight in the stock means more weight in the barrel where it can do some good. A straight glue-in prevents the screws being tightened too much and thereby adding stress to an otherwise stress-free bedding. Screws don't provide any useful function if the glue is working.

Screws do provide a useful function, i had one come apart only the tang screw held it together and it was just finger tight. No glue no screws torqued just laying in stock it would shoot 3" groups at 1000 yds. …….. so much for the importance of torquing screws……. jim

 

[JRS]

Could weight have anything to do with just glue ins no screws.
Just asking
I have a glue in only
And a screw pillar only both shoot great
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It's not so much the weight of the screws, but the weight of the stock needed to support the screws (or pillars). This only matters on 10.5# guns, where less weight in the stock means more weight in the barrel where it can do some good. A straight glue-in prevents the screws being tightened too much and thereby adding stress to an otherwise stress-free bedding. Screws don't provide any useful function if the glue is working.

Screws do provide a useful function, i had one come apart only the tang screw held it together and it was just finger tight. No glue no screws torqued just laying in stock it would shoot 3" groups at 1000 yds. …….. so much for the importance of torquing screws……. jim

Absoutely

 

[BoydAllen]

Action, caliber?

 

[JRS]

He doesn't reference the action Boyd, but does say a 6PPC.

 

[johara1]

Action, caliber?

Bat………. Dasher

 

[johara1]

They hold a 30 BR in a glue in, if they will hold a deer rifle. A glue in is pretty strong…… screws are a safety factor and peace of mind…. jim