6ARC hornady vs starline

[CJ6]

I have picked up some PPC from Brunos recently (Norma). It was backup for the 6 PPC , I guess I could pull 10-20 from there and give it a shot. I have the "tools" to do the work.

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

I have picked up some PPC from Brunos recently (Norma). It was backup for the 6 PPC , I guess I could pull 10-20 from there and give it a shot. I have the "tools" to do the work.

I'd give it a try using a false shoulder. You could probably get by with hard jam and heavy neck tension but I think the false shoulder method is much better at holding the case against the bolt face. That yields more consistent cases with less stretch in the web area.

 

[SD guy]

I have used Hornady, 6mm ARC & converted Starline Grendel brass & Lapua 6.5 mm Grendel brass. While I liked the Lapua brass better, Ill purchase Starline 6mm ARC when available for a fair price.

 

[CJ6]

I'd give it a try using a false shoulder. You could probably get by with hard jam and heavy neck tension but I think the false shoulder method is much better at holding the case against the bolt face. That yields more consistent cases with less stretch in the web area.

I figured I'd go up to 25 cal set the shoulder size neck back to 6mm and go from there.

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

I figured I'd go up to 25 cal set the shoulder size neck back to 6mm and go from there.

Sounds like a good plan to me.

 

[Retired shooter]

Have a new box of Starline 6.5 grendel brass, waiting for my attention, not that difficult to transform to 6 ARC. Maybe before I have to do that I can find some Lapua brass. Maybe.

Everyone have a great evening.!

 

[gunsandgunsmithing]

Have a new box of Starline 6.5 grendel brass, waiting for my attention, not that difficult to transform to 6 ARC. Maybe before I have to do that I can find some Lapua brass. Maybe.

Everyone have a great evening.!

Good luck. You might find a straggler box somewhere or find someone willing to sell you some but I'm not aware of any distributors sitting on any of the Lapua. I was able to source a couple of boxes out of Canada before that last shipment came in, via a friend of a friend kinda thing.

Let us know how the starline holds up to pressure, if you will. It'd be nice to have another viable option.

 

[David Milisock]

Which brass is better? A simple Honrnady or Starline answer please or other (name).

It depends on what you do. If you compete and reload significant amounts you may want Starline, if you practice CQB, carry for self defense and hunt Hornady will serve fine.

I hear a great deal of talk but loading for an AR at 52,000 PSI or less you'll have no problems.

I've read on this forum that Remington brass sucked, I've got 6MM Remington brass loaded to 65,000 PSI 10 times and still fine. Similar for Lake City 06, Norma, Federal and Winchester in various calibers.

Who knows?

 

[CJ6]

It's use will be target/varmint to 400-500 and not much further. Before any other cartridges are brought up I pretty much have that covered. I just wanted another cartridge with some economy and common use of bullets and powders and I have a PTG bolt in the safe needing to be put to use.

 

[TryinToShoot]

I also went the Lapua 6.5 Grendel brass route and resized to 6 arc, been superbly consistent so far, so I would again go that route if I did it over.

 

[DLT]

Neither.......

Lapua 6.5 Grendel, bump the shoulders back, trim to length, enjoy perfection......

Good luck running across any

 

[David Milisock]

It's use will be target/varmint to 400-500 and not much further. Before any other cartridges are brought up I pretty much have that covered. I just wanted another cartridge with some economy and common use of bullets and powders and I have a PTG bolt in the safe needing to be put to use.

My factory Aero Precision 6MM ARC upper and Aero Precision lower is capable of that with factory ammo.

 

[alf]

My factory Aero Precision 6MM ARC upper and Aero Precision lower is capable of that with factory ammo.

I've had two Aero uppers, and wasn't impressed with either......

 

[David Milisock]

I've had two Aero uppers, and wasn't impressed with either......

I got lucky with mine, it averages 1/2" at 100 yards, not as good as my Remington 700 in 6MM Remington or my Howa 1500 in 223 Remington but hood enough for chucking.

In my opinion the AR market has become a serious problem.

 

[Retired shooter]

In what way?

 

[Kracken McGraw]

I noticed Blue Collar Reloading had some Hornady 6.5 Grendel brass in stock, if that helps anyone.

 

[David Milisock]

In what way?

You can no longer go to a store and buy a rifle and know for certain that it's a quality rifle. There's just so many amateurs building rifles, just because there's a name on the upper or lower, it just doesn't mean shit.

I have a Colt AR15 A2 in 5.56 NATO, I've had it well over 30 years, it's not as accurate as my Howa 1500 in 223 but it's a 300 yard chuck shooter. In Delta configuration 500 yard combat shooting is a very simple task and with the iron sights still a very doable proposition. If the wind holds 600 yards is very possible, the issue with the 5.56 x 45 is energy on target out at range.

At the time I got that rifle I was in a situation where I was range help or range master at two ranges many of the shooters that I was shooting with were getting AR's, at that time I had shot well over 25 new AR 15 rifles in a short period of time. All brand names and all shot well.

Today buying an AR is a crap shoot.

 

[Retired shooter]

I can see your point, however I dont believe it is just one market area. Looking at our economy in today's world, it is effecting many areas. People will always try to get by the least expensive way they can to obtain whatever level of quality they think they need. Manufacturers know that and are ready to accommodate those looking for cheap items that are " Good Enough '

We cannot hold it against those trying to build something from nothing, if that is their desire, ( just need to realize if the recipe is for cherry pie cannot use BS for the ingredients) cannot hold it against manufacturer for trying to fill a marketplace with less quality items.

All comes back to the old saying You get what you pay for. I learned many years ago some things were much better if I purchased quality to begin with, I really never had time to redo or repair something three or four times to get it right, let alone price of all the components.

We are getting off of the original question.

Have a great day.!