$ 6.00 @ gal.

[Erik Cortina]

...the worst thing with a motor cycle is MOST people in cars are RETARDS......

fixed it for ya!

Good thing I drive a truck! ;D

trucks are not excluded from that statement

The good thing about motor cycles is... well, nothing!

That's right! I know from first hand experience, that riding a motorcycle is awesome! It's fun, and even exciting to be out on the road, just cruisin'. However, I have never, and will never own one. I know a couple of people who work in power sports shops. Almost every week, they have parents come into their shop and ream them out for selling their kid a motorcycle. These people go buy bikes, and end up killing themselves, or get hit by another motorist and are killed. People on bikes get killed all the time, and in most cases it's not their fault. Of course there are exceptions, like the guys who are always doing 100+ mph every time they ride.

I know of one case, where my friend sold a bike to guy, the happy customer pulled out of the lot, went to the first red light, and was killed by someone who ran the light. He owned his first bike for about 1 minute, and that was it. Because of what these guys see every day when working at the dealership, I have no desire to buy one, even though I love riding them!

bikes are great on gas, but even hitting a squirrel while in mid turn can end your life. That's a risk I'm not willing to take just to get 60, 80, or even 100+ miles per gallon.

This is what I meant by my statement, too much risk and no reward, but I guess that's what makes bike riders smart and not retards like car and truck drivers! ;D

Anyways, I don't really see this argument going anywhere good so I'm just going to let it run its course. That's the good thing about this country, we are free to do and drive what we want, until we can no longer afford it!

 

[bozo699]

The only way to make the oil companys step in line is to start a week long boycott of Exxon, there cash flow stops and they drop the price, buy shell and bp that week.

The following week boycott shell and buy from Exxon and BP, ect. ect.

Like any buisness with huge cash flow when it stop they panic.
Even if 50% of fuel buyers were doing this you would see real change to believe in.

Jim,
You are exactly right on that, the problem is trying to get all the people of the country to do it, I mean ask them to leave there vehicle parked for a day and not go to there beloved WALLMART ??? or inconveinence them by buying fuel elswhere for a few days, how dare you think that way!
Wayne.

 

[dan06]

Didn't I remember that Bush was blamed for high gas prices just a few years ago????? I don't see any of the networks blaming Obama for high gas prices now....We it probably isn't his fault.......

 

[rubbershotgun]

The only way to make the oil companys step in line is to start a week long boycott of Exxon, there cash flow stops and they drop the price, buy shell and bp that week.

The following week boycott shell and buy from Exxon and BP, ect. ect.

Like any buisness with huge cash flow when it stop they panic.
Even if 50% of fuel buyers were doing this you would see real change to believe in.

why would they panic? they know with absolute 100% certainty that you, me and everyone else is utterly dependent on oil, and that this fact is not about to change any time soon.

 

[therifler]

i can remeber someone promising change , i think we have acheived it . no one ever said what direction or what kind of change . next time someone should ask . T.R.

 

[Heavies]

i can remeber someone promising change , i think we have acheived it . no one ever said what direction or what kind of change . next time someone should ask . T.R.

You are right. No one asked.
But, many knew which direction he was going to take. It's just there where not enough of us that knew, and didn't like that direction, at the polls.
Next time, hopefully, it'll be different. Hopefully. ;D

 

[johnu]

Take the good with the bad. Six dollar gas will be the kiss of death to our elected officials. Another house cleaning is in order. Hope the voting idiots don't forget what change has ment to the rest of us.

I'm not sure I understand - if we toss out all of the House members and a third of the senators, the price of gas and diesel will automatically drop?

I do understand the anger, but the main failure of policy makers is that they adopted/promoted policies that made us too dependent on petroleum - the bill is know coming due. I say we keep the ones that are trying for a future that is more sustainable.

John

 

[Jim See]

The only way to make the oil companys step in line is to start a week long boycott of Exxon, there cash flow stops and they drop the price, buy shell and bp that week.

The following week boycott shell and buy from Exxon and BP, ect. ect.

Like any buisness with huge cash flow when it stop they panic.
Even if 50% of fuel buyers were doing this you would see real change to believe in.

why would they panic? they know with absolute 100% certainty that you, me and everyone else is utterly dependent on oil, and that this fact is not about to change any time soon.

sorry you don't understand economics.

 

[johnu]

Jim,
It would take more than a week's boycott on gas to make Exxon shake in their shoes. Let's see - their annual revenues are about $380 billion annually, or more than $1 billion a day. Profits? Usually close to $40 billion. And they don't just sell gas and diesel to Exxon stations - they supply crude to a variety of refiners, so no matter what pump you pull up to you may be pumping Exxon gas or Exxon crude. And don't forget about petrochemical products - and everything else that is made from, with, or transported with petroleum.

So how much US income tax has Exxon paid the last several years? What? Zero? Well, maybe that's part of the problem . . .

John

 

[Jim See]

Point taken John, I would think it would need to be longer than a week. Investors speculation seems to drive the higher prices on crude and if a company was slipping a bit on sales I would fathom to guess that the investors may second guess there speculating.

 

[bozo699]

Jim,
I think your more right than you may think, it would take total continental cooperation but if everybody would agree to say to heck with buying any fuel, I mean everybody and I mean any fuel you could convince them we are serious and the price would drop. The problem is most people are greedy and lazy and you couldn't and wouldn't get total unification. You would have to stop all driving,flying,and playing, no use of electricity in your homes or business for a week, two at the most and prices would fall. But that is unrealistically and will never happen. 235years ago we had the same problems were having right now, a few good o'l boys got together and said enough is enough, and other than a few Benedict Arnold's they all unified, said no more!! And through unification, dedication, and sacrifice from these few good o'l boys we now have the right to our opinions like were doing now and we have the right to make change's, decisions, and we have, unfortunately its been for the worse. Were fresh out of good o'l boys so our only chance for a positive change unfortunately is to let things run there course until the people are so sick and tired of the corruption that they say NO MORE we want our Country back, then bone up and take the first steps to take it back!! In November of next year would be a great time to remove the negative change and choose the right change's that will lead us back to the greatness we once were.
Wayne.

 

[johara1]

What we need is for them to pay tax the same as us. This will never happen,because they pay or grease both sides. If somebody got in there and made them pay,we would pay in the form of higher prices at the pumps.
We are in a no win situation and they are in a no loose situation,and they own about 70% of the natural gas now so go figure......jim

 

[rubbershotgun]

The only way to make the oil companys step in line is to start a week long boycott of Exxon, there cash flow stops and they drop the price, buy shell and bp that week.

The following week boycott shell and buy from Exxon and BP, ect. ect.

Like any buisness with huge cash flow when it stop they panic.
Even if 50% of fuel buyers were doing this you would see real change to believe in.

why would they panic? they know with absolute 100% certainty that you, me and everyone else is utterly dependent on oil, and that this fact is not about to change any time soon.

sorry you don't understand economics.

so we are not dependent on oil?

 

[GerryM]

The oil companies MADE us dependent on oil. Before that we were dependent on coal.

 

[oldhoward]

We have 3 trucks and 4 cars in my family and gas prices are killing us. Cars get 28 to 32 mpg, trucks about 12 mpg. I bought a Kawasaki KLR in 2009 to run around town on it get 50 mpg more or less and cost about 15 bucks to fill up.
We have oil, and so do other countries for now. What we don't have is refineries to process it.
Washington is defunct and we the people need to take responsibility for the mess and clean it up. All parties seem dead, we just need to get their attention and make massive changes. We will have another financial crisis soon, school loans and overseas loans. Banks have run overseas to continue doing what they did here. After all no one was put in jail, so let's do it again! It will get worse unless things change.

 

[shortgrass]

We have allowed (thru our representation) 'winners' and 'loosers' to be chosen, in our country, by subsidizing, through regulation, and the tax code. Look at the profits these companies show (and not just the oil companies!), and then to also receive subsidies in the form of our tax dollars, too. And regulation, where one industry is "regulated" and another not? And our tax code, we all know how messed-up that is! And all at political "whims", depends on which way the 'wind' is blowing!

 

[coyoteklr]

it's hard to keep up...but i thought someone said the people in the know said our refineries are old and we don't have enough....REMEMBER .... NO TRUTH IN THE NEWS AND NO NEWS IN THE TRUTH.... we have one refinery close by and 4 or 5 others in the state.... the one close by has been here since moby dick was a minnow and has increased in size by at least 3 times...the other ones in the state are bringing in what they call mega loads .... prefab units that are so big that they are hauled on special trailers and take almost a month to go across the state....
we lost a bunch of refineries in Katrina.... i don't think the production even blinked..
As i said we have all these refineries and don't have to transport far so our gas prices are the lowest in the nation......i also have some ocean front properties here in the the state i would be willing to part with with for a feeeenaminal fee...
when i went back to Louaville TN to the national farm show once and only once gas here was 1.76 back in louaville it was .79...explain that with out the bull of supply and demand... there were no gas wars...and i pronounce missouri as mazzura....and i was born in mont. but my dad wasn't...

even if you replaced all of the house and the senate and even the president things are not going to get better for the average american...and i think that exchange has aready happened... more than once.....hows that changy feely thing going for ya......

REMEMBER... WHO IS REALLY RUNNING THIS COUNTRY?.....

THERE USED TO BE AN OLD SAYING ABOUT HARLIES 8)... IF YOU COME OUT AND THERE ISN'T ANY OIL UNDERNEATH IT YOU HAD BETTER PUT SOME IN IT.... ;D

i wonder if we wil hit 9 pages???

 

[bozo699]

Well here we go i have planned to go to all the 1K BR matches this year and gas is going to go out of sight. This gun control at it's best, you can't afford to shoot.............jim

Well johara1, 1138 hits,118 posts, all in 48 hours. I'd say thats got to be close to a new forum record ;D Sometimes we need a little change from gun talk so we don't go crazy
thanks
Wayne.

 

[15Tango]

The good thing about motor cycles is... well, nothing!

Well, I'm not going to spend my life worrying about the many things that can take you out, and I certainly won't be crying about wasting a bunch of money to commute myself and another 8000 lbs of dead weight around. If you're not an idiot, ride a bike that's safe and watch out for moronic cagers on their cell phones you'll be just fine.

THERE USED TO BE AN OLD SAYING ABOUT HARLIES ... IF YOU COME OUT AND THERE ISN'T ANY OIL UNDERNEATH IT YOU HAD BETTER PUT SOME IN IT....

I'm not a Harley fan but that statement might just have some conjecture. If you're implying that they all leak oil from say, the engine, that's silly. They used to have chains, and oilers for those chains. Better than having a rusty chain snap on you locking up the back wheel killing you. On bikes with chain oilers, if the tank's empty, it is indeed a good idea to put some oil in it.

 

[coyoteklr]

if it isn't a record... what if he said he did it with one hand.... ;D ;D ;D