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$ 6.00 @ gal.

only $8 for a gallon of gas here in Iceland.. why are you complaning about $4 for a gallon ?

I haven't seen prices like that for the past 6 years here...
 
Timeout hit it on the head... I wish I had some help getting this link of Ry Cooder's "No banker left behind" up here! :'( Its on You Tube if anyone can help.
 
If ya want to know what happened to crude, look what Nixon and some of the politicians did in the early 70's with Securities Exchange Act of 1934, and the Glass–Steagall Act. Take some economics courses at your local college. Get indepth with 20th century American History studies. And the main pusher of the fiasco that caused the oil embargo was a Bush relative. There are books published devoted just to what happened then. Carter didn't help with the crude prices either' Remember the spike around 1980? What happened to prices after Bush declared war in the Middle East after 9/11? You can't say Osama or Obama caused that. Until the stock markets and the oil industry are controlled proper again, we have not saw the end of this. Instead of electing the suit with the most money, we need to focus on common sense.
 
articmp said:
If ya want to know what happened to crude, look what Nixon and some of the politicians did in the early 70's with Securities Exchange Act of 1934, and the Glass–Steagall Act. Take some economics courses at your local college. Get indepth with 20th century American History studies. And the main pusher of the fiasco that caused the oil embargo was a Bush relative. There are books published devoted just to what happened then. Carter didn't help with the crude prices either' Remember the spike around 1980? What happened to prices after Bush declared war in the Middle East after 9/11? You can't say Osama or Obama caused that. Until the stock markets and the oil industry are controlled proper again, we have not saw the end of this. Instead of electing the suit with the most money, we need to focus on common sense.
Then I certainly wouldn't vote for LaBamba again!!!
Wayne.
 
NO DOUBT! We need a real small business owner in the big house. A farmer even. A common person, someone who makes at or under the national average income. And while we are at it, turn those public servants back into public servants. Over 100k a year salaries, flipping nuts. By the people for the people, not by the people for yourself.
 
I like not having a car at all. Get to watch the gas prices and its kind of like going to a fireworks show. Now I am just waiting for the apex and big bang were everything blows up and we go :o 8) ::) .
 
"If ya want to know what happened to crude, look what Nixon and some of the politicians did in the early 70's with Securities Exchange Act of 1934, and the Glass–Steagall Act."

Care to elaborate with citations to authoritative documentation ??????

Last time we had a "farmer" (peanut farmer) in the White House it did not turn out well for most of us!!!

Articmp, I notice you are not a site contributor. I would hope you could see fit to make a small contribution so that we can all continue to enjoy this great site!!!
 
I plan on donating when I start doing the buy and sell thing. As for citations noting said information, a good chunk of what I am repeating was taught to me in 11th grade 20th century american history. Wiki has a full list of the Gov't pubs, if ya want to read through all of them. Once the SCEA of '34 and the G-S act were tampered with by the Nixon regime, and Nixon taking us out of the gold standard, it's been a downward spiral. And Ol' Mr. Bush did some tampering there too.
 
articmp said:
I plan on donating when I start doing the buy and sell thing. As for citations noting said information, a good chunk of what I am repeating was taught to me in 11th grade 20th century american history. Wiki has a full list of the Gov't pubs, if ya want to read through all of them. Once the SCEA of '34 and the G-S act were tampered with by the Nixon regime, and Nixon taking us out of the gold standard, it's been a downward spiral. And Ol' Mr. Bush did some tampering there too.

So it is clear you have no f-ing idea what you are talking about. How about an easy one: Explain how George W. Bush reduced your Dad's pension "12 fold." While doing this please equate "12 fold" in percentage terms.

After we get thru that, why don't you give me 5 (five) distinct and coherent reasons that GWB is responsible for what is going on with our US economy 3.5 years after he is out of office. In all of this I would appreciate real verifiable citations that do not include union newletters or newspaper editorials.

Since you seem interested in Obama's dismantling of the coal industry you might be interested in the link below. As you will see, today the EPA released rules that effectively ban the building of new coal-fired power plants.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/27/us-usa-carbon-idUSBRE82Q0W120120327


This along with NLRB abuses, unimaginable new CAFE standards, refinery shutdowns due to EPA rules, pipeline vetos, oil drilling moratoriums, solar energy bankruptcies, etc, etc, is why Obama (the guy you voted for and appear to not regret!!!!!!) has FUBAR'ed our economy!!!
 
Liberals NEVER, EVER, let facts get in the way of their emotions. There is an old saying that rings true yet today, "If you are not a liberal at age 18, you have no heart. If you are still a liberal at age 35, you have no brain". Author unknown.
 
JimT said:
articmp said:
I plan on donating when I start doing the buy and sell thing. As for citations noting said information, a good chunk of what I am repeating was taught to me in 11th grade 20th century american history. Wiki has a full list of the Gov't pubs, if ya want to read through all of them. Once the SCEA of '34 and the G-S act were tampered with by the Nixon regime, and Nixon taking us out of the gold standard, it's been a downward spiral. And Ol' Mr. Bush did some tampering there too.

So it is clear you have no f-ing idea what you are talking about. How about an easy one: Explain how George W. Bush reduced your Dad's pension "12 fold." While doing this please equate "12 fold" in percentage terms.

After we get thru that, why don't you give me 5 (five) distinct and coherent reasons that GWB is responsible for what is going on with our US economy 3.5 years after he is out of office. In all of this I would appreciate real verifiable citations that do not include union newletters or newspaper editorials.

Since you seem interested in Obama's dismantling of the coal industry you might be interested in the link below. As you will see, today the EPA released rules that effectively ban the building of new coal-fired power plants.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/27/us-usa-carbon-idUSBRE82Q0W120120327


This along with NLRB abuses, unimaginable new CAFE standards, refinery shutdowns due to EPA rules, pipeline vetos, oil drilling moratoriums, solar energy bankruptcies, etc, etc, is why Obama (the guy you voted for and appear to not regret!!!!!!) has FUBAR'ed our economy!!!
Your whole post is well put and spot on Jim!!....I am with you 100%!
Wayne.
 
timeout said:
Liberals NEVER, EVER, let facts get in the way of their emotions. There is an old saying that rings true yet today, "If you are not a liberal at age 18, you have no heart. If you are still a liberal at age 35, you have no brain". Author unknown.
Are you saying I have no heart!? This explains a lot.
 
12 fold equals 1200 percent. Or roughly $10,000 turned into $800,give or take a few bucks. How about only 1 reason? GW declared war on Osama after 9/11, gas prices jump from $1.20 at 9/11/2001 to $1.90 by March of 2002. Gas continued to climb while he was in office to $3.80 a gallon by the summer of 2005. Where was Obama? I am not defending one crook against the next. The DOW started to plummet directly after GW declared war against Osama. It took a deeper dive after he added Sadam. Liberal, conservative..... doesn't matter. Time to get rid of the trash in D.C. Did ya know that Mitt had family on the Hill long before he ran for president? No f-ing idea? Pull your head out of the cloud and research. Nixon would have never had to put a ceiling on crude prices if he would have never de-regulated crude. Once the world economy went to paper, it was worthless. OPEC became the new world order.
 
I never said I didn't regret voting for Obama. I just don't wear the blinders that force me to put the blame on the man that is sitting in the path. Most things that happen on the Hill are no less than a term behind the man that is in the big seat, if not farther back. Who is gonna profit from high fuel prices? The guy who is sitting on crude stocks.... like the Bush family. The consumer pays the high end, the gas station sees a little profit, the transport company get's a piece, the tank farm get's a bit, the refinery has it's hand in the mix, then the oil field owner is at the start of it all. Who get's the biggest share? The companies that own the whole mess.
 
Lets remember that Obama refuses to extend off shore drilling; refuses to allow drilling on national lands and recently deferred on extending the Keystone pipeline from Canada to Texas (now Canada will sell oil to China).

To compound the problem, on the east coast, three Philadelphia area refineries are shutting down and Sunoco has two up for sale.

Ironically, supply and demand does not apply to the oil industry.
 
Not sure how this will be taken, but the real truth is that this is just another step by the government to control the people. Just as most have stated on here "I/we ca't afford to go to shoots or anything else for enjoyment" and it is costing you most of your salary to go to work.

If the government begins to control your movement then they are controlling you. It will only get worse. There is only one way to stop it. Review American history and you will find the answer.
 
Just watched the news and utah wants all their federal land back to tap its natural resource,OIL!
 

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