Lol, you and I don't seem to agree on much, someone in the BR community says, "do something impressive", I say to them, push your 1K back 200 yards to 1200. After 50+ yrs if you have not perfected it, give up.
5,000 yd shot
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Haha, I assume you are referring to me with that quote? I've never shot a Benchrest match in my life, I feel honored that now I am a part of their community! I've shot 1200 yard matches with sling & irons 2 times, and did ok. Both times all shots were on paper on the NRA LR target, and one of the 2 times all except 1 shot was inside the 8-ring. On that one I was down 4 points after 14 shots, then dropped an off-call 6 on #15 to finish with a 142/150. That 40" black circle gets hard to center up with irons at that distance, especially when the sun is behind the targets. There aren't lot of opportunities to shoot ELR at all if you don't live in the SW, and the distance is not really the point here. The point is that very few would consider a hit on a target after 27 or 37 attempts as a great success, or an impressive feat. They didn't follow it up with another hit. If they hadn't hit the target on that shot, they would have kept shooting until they did hit it, or until they ran out of ammo.
That doesn't mean that there aren't any impressive feats in ELR shooting, this just wasn't one of them.
Ah yes, the ol' "dog in the fight" argument. So, I need to be an active participant in ELR shooting in order to have an opinion on this? Do I also need an MLB contract to comment on the World Series?
If it's skill, you can do it a good portion of the time. For me, a super shot is probably an accident. For instance, I put as new scope on my cheap AR15. Used a laser in the bore and estimated about 2" bouncing it off the side of my garage out the window of the house. Probably good enough to get on a piece of posterboard at 100 yards. Took my first shot and though I had missed. Couldn't see any holes. Went up and looked and this is the 1" target dot. If anyone had been watching, I would have said, "I proved my skill, now you try." Could I do it again? Of course not. This is a 1-1/2 MOA rifle at the best.
Someoldguy
After reading through this thread in it's entirety, I must say that once again I find myself surprised at the unexpected lessons to be found on this site.
And I'm not speaking to long range shooting.
And I'm not speaking to long range shooting.
For crying out load, I said earlier in the thread I could pick this story apart with the best of them. IMO, these guys need to go back with their new found load, make it a more acceptable showing before moving on to 6K like it was suggested. But I realize my opinion means jack sh*t, at some point, you tube, guiness world book, or the self proclaimed experts will decide who gets the crown here.
I say good shot for the time being, I'm not competing here.
Side note, I have offered my help to VaRandy in the form of a range to 2100, and a 3K target to get his start, I did shoot ELR before it became 3K+ yards. Again my opinion, ELR not even a dated term today, Uber Long Range, ULR is better suited and I demand my name is associated with it, lol
This^^^. I can't imagine the wind switching at that distance. I've shot silhouettes at 2,000 and it's totally dependent on the wind if you make a follow up hit. Not easy and like above, the further, the more exponential the difficulty.
GUINESS world will not take any records for guns. They must be liberal. Matt
No more Guinness beer for me
According to Guiness, (not verbatim) that the reason Guiness doesn't take anything for the world record long range shots is because they don't have any standardization set for the scopes used. Scopes can range from simple magnification and crosshairs to super duper electronics that can be programmed to show where to place the shot. I read this in the rejection letter they sent to the guy I posted about earlier. But I guess iron sights would be a different story.
I talked to them and they said they don't do firearm records. Matt
Not quite sure what is meant by "not paying dues" but find a form of formal registered shooting competition where membership is not required.....NRA, Olympic, etc.
And I'd say that speaks to the very challenge of the discipline. No one ever really totally dominates a discipline. Once a barrel starts giving up, and a great lot of bullets and powder are gone -you are pretty much back to square one. Not to mention aging which affects eyesight and muscle memory and short-term memory recall.
What about BR? Many years ago I thought there was a thread about someone shooting a very good group but since they were not a member of the nbrsa they would not get the record. There where many who thought it was fine because he was not a member.
Did they? I know I saw one of the guys with the then longest kill had a framed Guinness world record stating his story. I tried to google it and cannot find it.
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I did find many stories where they claim the Guinness record but can not find a picture or anything that proves it exists. I know I saw it in a video.
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No different than NRA venues. The money to organize the events, develop and enforce rules, score and record the results and costs of awards must come from somewhere.
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OK. Pay to play I get it.
This really sounds like the warm up, now that the shooter has the range and is "sighted in" its time to shoot for record. Otherwise this is kind of a non event. Sort of like the time years ago I tried to chase some resident geese out of my cornfield by lobbing a 22LR over thir heads at abt 400yds and centered one between the eyes. Could I do it again even if I wanted to, lets all laugh together at that.
on the other hand since he attempted the feat and succeeded perhaps we should at least say within the limits "well done".
on the other hand since he attempted the feat and succeeded perhaps we should at least say within the limits "well done".
So if there is not any competition for shooting 5,000 yards how can it be a record. At least in Afghanistan there is sniper against sniper, so I'd say that was a record. So is it a one shot one time record or are they going to start holding matches. When we have a match it's a sanctioned, that is the way record are broken.
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