40x vs. Anschutz

[Albany Mountain]

I wish I knew more about its intended match uses. The hand stop and iron sight set up I replaced make me think there had been a thriving .22 across the course style interest years back. Someone used to love it. I bought it at a renown, multigenerational store that has many times taken in what I surmise to be widow’s collections.

Does it have a laminated stock in walnut or solid wood stock?

 

[bored184]

Does it have a laminated stock in walnut or solid wood stock?

I'm pretty sure solid walnut.

 

[6fatrat]

If I recall in the 70's the AMU at Benning decided to see how their 40x rifles compared to the 1413 and 1411 Anschutz.
After the testing was over they switched to Anschutz.
Steve Bair

 

[XTR]

Test it and see.

A few yrs back I picked up a 40x barreled action off of GB. It's been rebarreled with no lug. The barrel profile is not particularly heavy, but in any case it was supposed to be a backup for a guy who used to shoot a lot of BR and didn't do enough to justify a backup. (story I got)

A while back I shot my 40x side by side with another guy running his Annie, both of us shooting off of bipods and rear bags out of the same boxes of ammo. After we both put up a few groups you'd have needed to get out the calipers to figure out which was better.

 

[bored184]

If I recall in the 70's the AMU at Benning decided to see how their 40x rifles compared to the 1413 and 1411 Anschutz.
After the testing was over they switched to Anschutz.
Steve Bair

I could easily see that. All things being stock and time period correct this Anschutz is by far more comfortable to shoot and trigger is superior.

 

[davidjoe]

Does it have a laminated stock in walnut or solid wood stock?

It’s solid walnut. It has a retractable butt plate with the hardest, longest lasting rubber compound I’ve seen.

it was glued into that stock. I’ve seen other 40-x’s that rusted below the wood line so I’m glad for the glue-in.

 

[Albany Mountain]

Go to OK Weber website and they have new replacement butt rubber for $8. I bought two to replace the original ones I had that probably dated into the 70's. At $8 they are a steal and with shipping nowadays, I would buy two and it is cheaper yet.

https://www.okweber.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=355
https://www.okweber.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=356

And if the stock was laminated, it would probably be one of these original rifles.

 

[davidjoe]

That add and pad information is golden. Thanks!

 

[Delfuego]

Would it cost as much as a new Vudoo or RimX to do this conversion?

No, it's a reasonable price considering the work involved. I don't know the exact price, but not if you already own a 40x you're most of the way there. It you rebarrel at the same time it would of course bring the price up.

 

[Delfuego]

The idea behind putting my 40x in an Eliseo is that I'd have a rimfire clone of my high power rifle.

I'm with you! Keep everything as close to the same as possible. I personally am too dumb to figure out new stuff. That's why all my match rifles are essentially all the clones.

 

[SBS]

Go to OK Weber website and they have new replacement butt rubber for $8. I bought two to replace the original ones I had that probably dated into the 70's. At $8 they are a steal and with shipping nowadays, I would buy two and it is cheaper yet.

https://www.okweber.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=355
https://www.okweber.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=356

And if the stock was laminated, it would probably be one of these original rifles.

Chances are not good that just any laminated free rifle stock on a 40X would be an original factory rifle. I've seen many aftermarket 40X free rifle stocks, both walnut and laminated, but I've only seen one of the factory original free rifles. I owned and shot it for several years, then sold it to a collector in the late 70's and he told me only something like 20 were sold (don't remember the exact number). It was a heavy rifle weighing over 16 lb. with a Redfield 3200, and came with Roy Dunlap hardware. The later free rifles made on the 40XB actions used a lighter stock made of solid walnut, but Anschutz by that time was dominate in the international free rifle market in the Western world, so it didn't go anywhere either. I still have one of the later ones and it shoots well as did the earlier model.

 

[dc.fireman]

A little background about me. I currently shoot NRA High Power matches using a Rem 700 in an Eliseo chassis. Years ago I shot rimfire prone with the Anschutz 54. It currently has the precursor to the 5018 trigger. It's a nice two stage trigger but it's got some age on it. However, I installed the 2 stage trigger on it. The original trigger on it was not a 2 stage trigger. The rifle states Match 54 on the barrel and is in wooden stock very similar to my father 1813 Super Match. I do have a 5018 trigger just sitting in the safe. It was purchased cheap, at the price I paid for it I can only assume something is wrong with it.

The idea behind putting my 40x in an Eliseo is that I'd have a rimfire clone of my high power rifle.

The precursor to the 5018 is the 5072 ( I think - perhaps @Tim s. could comment on it). Try putting your triggers in an ultrasonic cleaner for a few minutes. I fill mine with rubbing alcohol, run each trigger for 5 minutes (no heat), and then pour the dirty rubbing alcohol back into the bottles for re-use. Re-lube the trigger with a generous dose of Naptha based lighter fluid (Ronsonol, ZIppo). When the lighter fluid evaporates, it leaves a thin waxy film behind, which Anschutz says is the right amount for lubrication.

I did something similar to what you are now doing, but in reverse - I built a 300M gun, trying to match my rimfire rifle. It worked OK.

 

[1Merlin]

5072 is a great trigger. I have it on my Silhouette rifle built from a 1427 Running Boar rifle. Had to be re-sprung to get it up to legal 2# pull weight. IMO it gives up nothing to any trigger built today or yesterday.

The fireman is spot on in his lube advise - old school is still kool.

 

[Hoser]

If I recall in the 70's the AMU at Benning decided to see how their 40x rifles compared to the 1413 and 1411 Anschutz.
After the testing was over they switched to Anschutz.
Steve Bair

For coat and sling shooting, the Annie is a much better option compared to the 40X.

The way the receiver is made makes it difficult to look into the chamber to feed a round into the chamber. At the time, there were not very many good 2 stage trigger options avail for the R-700/40X actions.

 

[bored184]

Who makes a good rimfire barrel?

 

[1813benny]

In no specific order:

• Shilen
• Benchmark
• Mueller (if you can get one)
• Krieger
• Hart
• Schneider
• Lilja

Good barrels from many manufacturers. Shilen and Mueller are currently the favorites for rimfire BR.

 

[Will Henry]

The last 40X I worked on has a sheet metal insert which filled the left raceway to prevent the cartridge from rolling into the raceway. I have also filled the left raceway with epoxy to accomplish the same thing. GD

 

[Bill Rodolph]

Eliseo makes a chassis for the Anshutz. But you epoxy the barrel into a sleeve which is then held in place in the chassis and the action floats as well as the barrel. So you can have the same set up as you high power gun with the Anshutz in the Eliseo chassis. On the other hand, I have a friend with a rebarreled 40X that shoots lights out. Your choice.

 

[Hi-NV Shooter]

The precursor to the 5018 is the 5072 ( I think - perhaps @Tim s. could comment on it). Try putting your triggers in an ultrasonic cleaner for a few minutes. I fill mine with rubbing alcohol, run each trigger for 5 minutes (no heat), and then pour the dirty rubbing alcohol back into the bottles for re-use. Re-lube the trigger with a generous dose of Naptha based lighter fluid (Ronsonol, ZIppo). When the lighter fluid evaporates, it leaves a thin waxy film behind, which Anschutz says is the right amount for lubrication.

I did something similar to what you are now doing, but in reverse - I built a 300M gun, trying to match my rimfire rifle. It worked OK.

dc.fireman,

The 5072 was a direct replacement upgrade trigger for the older wing-safety 1400 series match 54 that Anschutz sold, they had no safety.
later the 5071-1 was introduced, it is a 5018 trigger with the correct sear lever, so they can be used on the older match 54. this trigger, has the same cam lever adjustment as a 5018. the 5072 and 5071 did not. they are indeed great triggers.

Lee

 

[doclu60]

In no specific order:

• Shilen
• Benchmark
• Mueller (if you can get one)
• Krieger
• Hart
• Schneider
• Lilja

Good barrels from many manufacturers. Shilen and Mueller are currently the favorites for rimfire BR.

Why does hardly anyone know how to spell Muller? Mueller is a kinda crappy Chinese scope manufacturer. It's pronounced 'Mule..er'.

Muller Works is a highly acclaimed barrel manufacturer. Pronounced 'Mull..er'.

In the list posted, for RFBR, only three are seen in any numbers at a sanctioned RFBR match. Muller, Shilen, and Benchmark. Mostly Muller and Shilen. Some Benchmarks, hardly any Lilja anymore, and I have only seen a couple of Harts over 4 years and only at really big matches and they were WAY down the leader board.

Best bet if looking for a barrel that can be had fairly quickly, Shilen or Benchmark, especially the 3 groove Benchmark.