To win in 1000 yard bench rest in heavy gun you have to be able to put 10 shots in the 4 to 5 inch range on a fairly consistent basis. If you can't do that in 4 to 5 matches out on 10 you are not going to do well in the season aggs. Most of the guns are 300 WSM and 6 Dashers. I have a 338 Lapua IMP. that i hunt with and it is 45 lbs and braked and it still pushes you around. The 338 bullets are not good enough to compete at 1000 yards. The 6.5-284 that was a dominate caliber in the 17 pound class five years ago all but disappeared. They are too fussy to get to shoot small enough. The WSM and Dasher totally dominate now.
.338 Lapua not accurate enough?
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Raythemanroe
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dkhunt14, I know the 6mm's are very popular now days and agree cause I like to shoot them but I do believe the 300 WSM just slapped down a pretty good 1k record ! I bet a lot of 6mm shooters are wishing they had at least a .284 when the wind picks up! I'm not a big fan of the .338 lm other then hitting power!
Raythemanroe
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pmarauder said:
http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2010/09/matt-kline-shoots-2-815-record-at-1000-yards-with-300-wsm/
I could be wrong but I thought the 338 laupa was developed for military application to do everything the 50 bmg can do but better. Its lighter and more effective for movablity and accuracy in field. Now I could be wrong but that's my take on it.
also a lot of ranges have banned them because of muzzle blast and it destroys metal targets
also a lot of ranges have banned them because of muzzle blast and it destroys metal targets
drumcorpschamp
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raythemanroe said:
Hey Ray, dkhunt14 is Matt Kline. A good guy and tough competitor!
Jerry
Raythemanroe
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drumcorpschamp said:
That's funny and pretty cool at the same time! Well maybe I'll introduce my self here in the not to long future.
Most of that is true but putting together 10 shot groups is another story. Mine is a full out custom 1000 yard heavy gun just like my other guns. It is a lot lighter at 45 pounds because we carry our guns in pretty far to hunt. It is capable of 4 inch 5 shot groups at 1000 and really shines at long range and when conditions get bad. But the best 10 shot groups are usually in the 7 to 10 range and that is not good enough for competition. They are legal to shoot at Williamsport as long as the brake doesn't vent to rear.JORTZ said:
Raythemanroe
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Mr. Kline I am kinda interested if you full length size or neck size that 300 wsm? The article said you anneal everytime is that just to save case life or have you found that to be more accurate> Sorry of topic!
I like to shoot ground hogs at very long range. I can tell you that I have a few rifles that shoot tiny groups 6x284 6 BR to name a few. One thing is for sure they are not very effective at shooting hogs at 1300 plus yards. You give up a little up close to gain it down the road. Do I think it's a 1000 br winner no but it's a winner when you get way out there. I also own a 338 lapua imp that I use for deer and other hunting. It amazing how deadly that rifle is! Nothing safe when that rifles comes out of the safe.
I full length size every time in both the WSM and the Dasher. I anneal the WSM every time but not the Dasher. I only anneal the Dasher when needed. I don't move my Dasher cases as much when sizing so i don't think it is needed every time. The annealing on the WSM really helps on the vertical and in scoring but it also keeps the cases so they bump and size the same. With 2 different WSM's one in light and one in heavy; when i started to anneal my scores went way higher.raythemanroe said:
Raythemanroe
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dkhunt14 said:
Thanks, Ray
Raythemanroe
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dkhunt14 said:
The barrel you used when braking the record was a button rifled barrel?
Lot's of good points and lot's of stuff .... I don't understand the Steel thing with the 338 Lapua 22/250 and 220 swift is much harder on steel !!!! Read the sings at the Wittingtion Center Steel Range 6mm and up... I have a lot of steel and My 338 Lapua goes splat just like the 308 just a bigger splat . I love all guns and I am not in Love with just one But if you don't have a 338 You probably don't have a clue the 338 L is one bad dude and yes the shooter is always the key .
Raythemanroe
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I gotta believe though that as many of these good or great shooters that have one and are not competing with them because of what they say is not enough accuracy to compete with! I would like to think that a big hog of a bullet is easier to throw down range with less effect of wind and easier to keep on target! There has to be something to it, If they were hands down better I would guess more would be on the bench!
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