30BR questions...

[Judd]

I read the article on the front page and it makes the 30BR sound like the most consistant, inherently accurate and consistant caliber for 300yds or less benchrest stuff.

So a little background. A few weeks ago I took my smith a Tikka action to make into something. I have been all over the board with want I wanted and pretty much had decided on a 6x47. I have a 6BR and like the 6mm bullet offerings and availability to me so that was the route I had about decided on. Then someone said I needed to look into a 30BR. It sounds intriguing. I also have a 6.5 Creedmoor for the further stuff but the 6BR is so fun to shoot I have been neglecting it lately

Purpose for rifle...I plan on shooting clays and steel from 100yds to 300m. One of the competitions I shoot has a tight group at 100yds event.

So my questions are:

1. Seems everyone is shooting BIB's that I have read but I cannot find a price or online source for them. I was going to call them but saw they are in LA and figure the least of anyone's worry over there is bullets right now. Good luck to them all! So directly...what is the current pricing on a 30cal 115-118 grain BIB?

2. I noticed a local outlet for Bergers has 115's...how do they compare to the BIB's? I have never even seen a BIB bullet in person.

3. Does this sound like a great fit for what I am doing?

4. What is barrel availability? I have never even seen a 1:17 twist 30 cal advertised. Do you know anyone with some in stock?

5. The article was written as there was no downsides to the 30BR under 300 yards. Are there any?

Thanks...I might have more questions as I continue research but those were my initial thoughts. Sorry so long winded

 

[GSPV]

1. http://bibullets.com/ . Randy has several different bullets good for the 30 BR. He's a great guy and always willing to help a guy get started.

2. I shoot the Berger 115s quite a bit and like them. Others to consider are Cheek, Conley, Euber, Hillbilly, and Knight.

3. FWIW, at the local varmint matches, shot at 300 yards, the 30 BRs rule the day till it gets super windy. Then the 10 twist 6 BRs running mid-weight bullets start to take over.

4. Barrel availability is something of a function of price. You can order directly and wait for a while or you can go with one of the brokers, pay a bit of a premium and get one immediately. One that comes immediately to mind is Bruno Shooters Supply http://www.brunoshooters.com/ . You could go with a 1:17 or even a 1:18.

5. The most noticable downside to the 30 BR vs the 6 PPC, with 62-68 grain bullets, is recoil. When I shoot my 6 BR with 87s and 95s, it feels pretty much the same as my 30*.

* Disclaimer: I shoot a 30 Major. It is to the 6.5 Grendel case as the 30 BR is to the 6 BR case. I use it so that I can stick with a PPC bolt face. The velocity is pretty mucht the same as the 30 BR.

 

[Judd]

That is exactly the kind of info I was looking for....thanks!

 

[GSPV]

You're very welcome.

The 30 BR is very forgiving and there is tons of information out there.

If it was me, I would build a 30 BR legal for IBS/NBRSA VFS and rock on. If it was super windy, you could always pull out one the 6's that you already have.

Alternately, you might consider the 30x47. It is to the 6.5x57 Lapua as the 30 BR is to the 6 BR. It would give you a tad more punch.

Greg J

 

[fm1947]

30 bR is a fun gun if you want to shoot score shooting, that little 118 bullet is going over 3000 fps, everyone uses pretty much the same reamer it is called the Robinette reamer, its the only one I know of, I have a krieger barrel heavy varmit #17 from Bruno and chambered by Bruno, they are very easy to load for H4198 is the most used, the BIB bullet is very popular but when not availible others work , the guy who makes the BIB bullet is Randy Robinette thats where the name of the reamer came from , him and Al Nyfus can tell you all you need to know about the 30br , they are chambered with a tight neck of .330 so you will need to turn the necks or have some one do it if not familiar with turning necks , there is a brass service person at http://djsbrass.com/Services.html I have never used hime but I am sure someone will comment on his work, good luck.

 

[Judd]

Thanks Dave, sounds like I need to reconsider a bit. I neck turn everything under the thought process that it can't hurt. I'm not convinced it helps a bunch but it did help uniform the Hornady brass in my Creedmoor for a consistant neck tension.

Anything else you can think of regarding negatives to the caliber I am all ears.

Again, thanks to everyone for their input.

 

[GSPV]

Could you hit the high points of those 30 BR changes, Dave?

 

[GSPV]

No more accurate, just a fatter bullet which is the motivation behind the UBR movement.

There, I would disagree with you. The unifying theme behind UBR is getting people to the bench. Do not take that as a simplistic statement.

 

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I HAVE A NEW 18 TWIST KREIGER LV BLANK I WILL SHIP FOR $300.00 IF YOU ARE INTERESTED

 

[superlight93]

If you decide to uses BIB bullets then your necks on turned brass will need to be a little thinner. I recomend .0098 for maximum neck wall thickness. Randy's bullets are fatter at the pressure ring than the other offerings on the market. Better safe than sorry.
Good Shootin!

 

[GSPV]

Jim Borden recommends 9.4 thou. On a 332 neck, I cut my necks to 10.3. I think that a little more clearance is better in the 30's. For what it's worth.

 

[Judd]

I HAVE A NEW 18 TWIST KREIGER LV BLANK I WILL SHIP FOR $300.00 IF YOU ARE INTERESTED

Thanks. If that is the route I decide then it will be a straight 1.25 and 17 twist.

 

[GSPV]

Thank you, Dave. Those are very applicable to my choices. I appreciate the info.