.300 WSM WOW!
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A RAD system would be a must. A low profile stock to reduce the torque and hop. Of the few i saw shooting one at SWN’s it looked like it was a chore in handling it, especially late in the string and late relays.
Knowing me, lol, i will put one together at some point.
Hello Norm.. I have a McMillan Kestros stock on my .300WSM.. I know I doubt very seriously I could get 20 "well placed" shots even in 5 mins. However, as Matt Peetz stated, if you had a RADII System, it may very well be possible. I do NOT have a RAD on mine, so I can not make an accurate prediction about whether you could do it. I do believe that someone like David Gosnell, who can fire like a Mini-Gun, and has tremendous experience doing it, with the proper stock (like the low-center of gravity Kestros), coupled with a RAD could master it. But that is just an opinion.
I've shot many F-Class matches with my .300 WSM in temps up to 100°F. It gets no hotter than my .284 Shehane. Barrel life has been consistent at ~1500 rounds with a straight Ø1.25" barrel. Since I read each shot, it usually takes me 8-12 minutes for 20 + sighters.
It is a recoil reduction system. It takes the place of a 3 way adjustable butt plate. It is spring actuated and the springs can come in various resistances. My friend has one and his 7SAUM is about as mild as a 6.5 x 47! They work great!
http://hartshooting.com/radsystems/radsystem2a.html
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Well MOST .284s shoot the 180 Hybrids @ 2800-2840. I am shooting the 215s at 2910-2915. The 180s, I believe, have a 674B.C. The 215s have a 691b.c. and are leaving the muzzle at 2910.. Depending on where your rifle lies, it could be about 1/2M.O.A. I have NOT shot enough matches with mine to know exactly>>>but others I trust say about "1/2 M.O.A. "or so" at 1000 yards..
NOTE: here is a point of "discussion" that could devolve into a pissing match: The people I trust say that even thought the ballistic tables say "X" for the .284 / 180 Hybrids and "Y" for the 215s the heavier bullets belie the tables! They ALL say the heavier bullets drift "noticeably" less than the .284s.. These are guys that have shot BOTH rifles on the same day under the same conditions. The actual drift of the one against the other does not match up with what the ballistic tables state.. Now you know why this could devolve into a "shouting" match..
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How’s scores vs your 284 been?
With the 1 match I have had with it, under some tricky wind, my last match was with Winchester LRM primers and I only dropped one point and had right at 13Xs!
The difference between 180 H @2830 and 215H@2900 is .26MOA at 1K in a 10mph change...per the applied ballistics calculator. That assumes you can shoot the WSM consistently as small as the 284. If so, then you have an advantage. If not, then you are at a disadvantage to the cartridge that shoots smaller. Time will tell and I'll be right there to witness it Ben!
Yes you will! See how easy it could be to get into "one of these" discussions about ballistic tables and real world vs mathematical theory! But we shall see and you will help me along the way!The difference between 180 H @2830 and 215H@2900 is .26MOA at 1K in a 10mph change...per the applied ballistics calculator. That assumes you can shoot the WSM consistently as small as the 284. If so, then you have an advantage. If not, then you are at a disadvantage to the cartridge that shoots smaller. Time will tell and I'll be right there to witness it Ben!
PS. the recoil difference is 8.9ft-lbs vs 11.6ft-lbs. That's the main detractor from the 300 WSM.
Not that a 284 is better, but I'm a big believer that muzzle blast plays just as much a role as recoil in shooter fatigue. I think that's a big reason why the 6BR class of cartridges can be so competitive so often is that the muzzle blast is so much lower than the "big boomers" and shooters are calmer behind the gun. Even with plugs and muffs, you hear a big difference between a dasher and a 300wsm.
The difference between 180 H @2830 and 215H@2900 is .26MOA at 1K in a 10mph change...per the applied ballistics calculator. That assumes you can shoot the WSM consistently as small as the 284. If so, then you have an advantage. If not, then you are at a disadvantage to the cartridge that shoots smaller. Time will tell and I'll be right there to witness it Ben!
215H in .300 WSM provide an undetectable ballistic advantage over 180H .284 Shehane at ~2940. 230H do provide a significant ballistic advantage. Both .284s and .300 WSM are capable of high precision, although .300 WSM is easier to tune. Gun handling is the problem. It is not a problem with either .284 Win or Shehane. A .300 WSM with 230s is difficult to manage. Unless one is very stubborn, .284 Win or Shehane are obvious choices.
Well that and a Dasher isn't train wrecking your set-up every shot either.
Neither one of the gents tagged...But I shot team last year at the TSRA LR State match with David Gosnell, Ken Dickerman and Corey Bizzell...Ken was shooting a 300wsm and the rest of us were shooting a 284's...Ken's gun was a 1/2 to 3/4 of ring better than ours from what I could tell.
I only have experience with 6MM and 30 at 1000. I never had any 7MM. If you see the difference in wind drift between the two, I believe it. I shoot my 338 Lapua IMP against the big 30 on super windy days. That 300 Berger will stay in the Blue. Matt
^^^^^This is exactly what the people who shot each during the same day and under the same wind conditions determined! When you get 2 observations like that, by shooters who know a thing or two about shooting, there is more than "smoke" >>> I believe there is fire!!
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