• This Forum is for adults 18 years of age or over. By continuing to use this Forum you are confirming that you are 18 or older. No content shall be viewed by any person under 18 in California.

300 Wheeler

Alex Wheeler and myself have done quite a few projects over the years. I had the first 300 Norma improved barrel for testing/shooting. While it's a great case, there is not many good action choices for the Lapua sized cases. The other down fall, is not many re-barrel choices out there. We set out to find what would be the max case you can run with a magnum action, and still be able to feed in a CFE-9 (4") BDL.

The 404 Jeffery is a very accurate parent case. Think RUM, SAUM,WSM ETC. The 300 RUM is one bad dude! Only issue that I have is the case is to long for the 230 Bergers to fit in the neck. The 338 RUM is .094" shorter than a 300 RUM. I took a 338 RUM case, (109.6 GR VOLUME) necked it down, and could seat a 230 in the neck with .050 above the dreaded doughnut. This put the case at 3.950. This freebore will also work well with 210VLD and 199 Hammer Hunters.

Necking down the brass is very easy. I purchased a Hornady ($32) .308 neck sizing die. Sized the necks, then ran an expander mandrel though to set my .002 Neck tension. For the dies, I took a 300 RUM die, cut .095" off and it sizes the web like a custom die should! No custom dies is a plus!

Next I loaded up some 230's with H1000. After about 40 rounds, I started load development. Out of the gate I could tell this combo would work. 89.5-90.5 all had same POI at 300 yards. I took the gun to 300 for some grouping. 89.5 grains has produced 1.2"-.75" groups multiple times. This load has an ES of 9 FPS across 12 shots on different days. With a 26" barrel the 230's are 2 grains below max, and are going 3040 FPS.

I am REALLY liking this cartridge. It feeds great out of my BAT HR, Loves H1000, ADG Brass. IMO this is the best option for guys wanting 300 NMI speeds out of standard magnum actions. Once you fight doughnuts and seating the bullet below neck shoulder junction, you won't want to do it again..
 

Attachments

  • 0419C7BA-1883-49E9-A2D4-465FF865C237.jpeg
    0419C7BA-1883-49E9-A2D4-465FF865C237.jpeg
    78.8 KB · Views: 118
  • 42531B9D-74B8-4F94-B9D4-3DBA61FBC81A.jpeg
    42531B9D-74B8-4F94-B9D4-3DBA61FBC81A.jpeg
    91 KB · Views: 114
Wow! There are a lot of advantages to that... standard dies, brass that has been around for a long time and the list goes on.... It will be interesting to see this progress.
 
Custom reamer from JGS based on the ADG brass. The 300 RUM min SAAMI is .551 on the .200 line. If Alex held it .094 short, it would tighten up the base which I would not want for sizing issue that can occur.
 
The 338 RUM isn’t a super popular round. A few months ago it was pretty easy to find ADG 338 RUM brass. I haven’t looked since.
 
Not trying to rain on your parade but it sounds like the Imperial Magnum line out of Canada. Then Bill Shehane and I did the same thing to the 404 case in the early 90's pre RUM. We did it in 7MM, 30 and 338. The 7's were amazing. 178's @3400 out of a 30" barrel. You better not blink or you'll miss everything.
Everything goes in a circle.
good luck
 
Not trying to rain on your parade but it sounds like the Imperial Magnum line out of Canada. Then Bill Shehane and I did the same thing to the 404 case in the early 90's pre RUM. We did it in 7MM, 30 and 338. The 7's were amazing. 178's @3400 out of a 30" barrel. You better not blink or you'll miss everything.
Everything goes in a circle.
good luck
Dave, I am sure this has been done many times before. It has some characteristics that I really like. Not needing custom dies to get proper sizing is a big one for me. Alex has a reamer from pre RUM days that is extremely close to a 338 Edge. Might of been one of yours!
 
@rhovee when were you seeing doughnuts in the 300 NMI? I agree w/ what you say about the Lapua BF and being able to use a mag action...This does seem like a great caliber for many reasons.
 
No I did not get doughnuts in the 300 NMI. I did/do in the 338 version because I necked up 300 brass. I now have Lapua 338 Norma brass which helped. I have had doughnuts in cases from necking down along with normal rounds that I used bushing dies on. 300 WSM, 28 Nosler.
 
This was Ryan's idea and I only speced the reamer. It turned out better than I expected. Its a great option for guys that are thinking about a 300 NMI but have a mag action. Not much these days is new, but that was not the goal.
 

Upgrades & Donations

This Forum's expenses are primarily paid by member contributions. You can upgrade your Forum membership in seconds. Gold and Silver members get unlimited FREE classifieds for one year. Gold members can upload custom avatars.


Click Upgrade Membership Button ABOVE to get Gold or Silver Status.

You can also donate any amount, large or small, with the button below. Include your Forum Name in the PayPal Notes field.


To DONATE by CHECK, or make a recurring donation, CLICK HERE to learn how.

Forum statistics

Threads
166,306
Messages
2,215,901
Members
79,519
Latest member
DW79
Back
Top