The recoil is a different feel because of the shoulder angle
Interesting concept. Could you explain why this is? I’m not doubting what you’re saying but I’ve never come across this before.
The recoil is a different feel because of the shoulder angle
Outperforms the WSM at what ??? (I can't wait to hear this)
The 300 H&H Magnum is a fine cartridge and has a very long history on African Planes Game. - It also has won some early matches at 1000 yds in a couple of different shooting disciplines.
I thought I was the only one that liked this cartridge. I picked the Classic up from a LGS while living in FL. The owner of the shop bought it for deer hunting and put it up for sale after finding a model 70 pre 64 in this chambering. I bought it for an Elk hunt with a bunch of friends, only hunt I've ever used it on.
Interesting concept. Could you explain why this is? I’m not doubting what you’re saying but I’ve never come across this before.
Recoil has a component referred to as 'ejecta', which consists of the unburned powder, the plasma (super hot gas) and the bullet while in the barrel but after being lit by the primer. if you work with a recoil calculator, the more powder used in a particular load, the heavier the recoil. Those larger cartridges with longer, mildly tapering shoulders like the .300 H&H (17 degrees approx.) allow the majority of the slower burning powders to be pushed forward from the case into the barrel through primer ignition before being completely consumed and turned into plasma. This in essence, stretches out the recoil moment for many of the inches in the barrel's length resulting in a 'push' rather than the a sharp blow under recoil.The recoil is a different feel because of the shoulder angle and amount of powder moving down the barrel while trying to burn.
What do you think of buying a 300RUM and setting the barrel back. Then re chambering to 300 H & H?
And is it just sitting around??
The 300 H & H has a greater case capacity.......loaded to the same PSI, the H & H will be faster.
The magic with the 300 WSM is that it is loaded to higher PSI.....no free lunch, and no magic. Form you H & H brass from RWS 375 H & H brass and you can run up the PSI a bit on the H & H.
On the other hand, I have no less than six 300 WSM tubes and not one H & H tube, so there's that.
Tod
Yes, faster - of course more case capacity equates to the ability to burn more powder - Elementary physics
- Velocity is not everything especially in the "accurate shooter" world. And that's what this web site is geared around.
- I'm not here to have an argument and I don't need a lesson in "free lunch or magic" or for that matter a lesson on either of the 2 cartridges -
One thing I've noticed on here, there are different levels of knowledge and intelligence levels of conversations...............
You asked.....(with some condescension, I might add.....)
Outperforms the WSM at what ??? (I can't wait to hear this)
I answered .......
The 300 H & H has a greater case capacity.......loaded to the same PSI, the H & H will be faster.
And then you proclaim you don't need a lesson.
Make up you mind.
Tod
The Super 30 does my talking! I own four rifles chambered in 300 H&H. The 300 H&H with today's powders and bullets makes for a great all around big game cartridge for North America and plains game in Africa. Deadly on leopards too.
I think the shallow shoulder is also the reason the brass doesn't need as much trimming. I measured fired cases and was surprised that they don't seem to lengthen as much as some of my other cartridges.Tommie,
same reason funnels do not have a 90-degree reduction at the small end where the contents are poured into a smaller container mouth. It was considered that the H&H shallow shoulder acted as a funnel, whereas the sharp shouldered designs can have burning granules bounce off of the shoulder and back into the main charge mass.
i have a set of 300 H&H dies but no rifle --this must mean i need oneNow that I have your attention, why am I lusting over this old has been?? I know there are a large number of modern .30 calibers that will blow this one away. Unless you build a rifle, most available ones are pretty pricey since they are older collector pieces. I believe Browning and Blaser make bolt action rifles in this caliber. So should I just take a cold shower and look at an '06?