30 br twist

[Josh11]

For the 110-125 grain bullets, I’ve seen the br guys run the 1-15” to 1-18” twist. According to Begers website, these bullets are
“marginally stable”. We’re looking for the best groups obviously and out as far as we can. We’ve tested these bullets in a 1-10” and 1-12” and getting decent results. I know they are using the 1-17” twist for BR and such, I am really just looking for first hand knowledge.

 

[Sniper338]

Tag. Something im looking at doing too.

I just need to find the right hunting bullet to shoot in one first.

 

[newbieshooter]

For the 110-125 grain bullets, I’ve seen the br guys run the 1-15” to 1-18” twist. According to Begers website, these bullets are
“marginally stable”. We’re looking for the best groups obviously and out as far as we can. We’ve tested these bullets in a 1-10” and 1-12” and getting decent results. I know they are using the 1-17” twist for BR and such, I am really just looking for first hand knowledge.

How did you determine shooting 110-125gr bullets are marginally stable in 1-15 - 1-18 twist barrels? Generally - 30BRs shoot FB bullets? :



According to Berger, for their 115gr FB bullet:

 

[AlNyhus]

For the 110-125 grain bullets, I’ve seen the br guys run the 1-15” to 1-18” twist. According to Begers website, these bullets are “marginally stable”.

That's incorrect. Are you using the Flat Based stability calculator?

We’re looking for the best groups obviously and out as far as we can. We’ve tested these bullets in a 1-10” and 1-12” and getting decent results. I know they are using the 1-17” twist for BR and such, I am really just looking for first hand knowledge.

You can also go to the JBM Ballistics site, input your numbers and get the stability number.

 

[Josh11]

That’s the info I needed before I pull the trigger on a slow twist. I appreciate your responses!

 

[Oso]

You caught my attention with 30BR. A few friends and I hunt with 300HAM’R using 1:15 twist barrels. We have no problems shooting 100gr-135gr (flat based) without any stability issues. We have run a variety of different bullets in this weight class manufactured by Barnes, Lehigh Defense, Speers, Sierra, and Hornady. Sorry - no hands on with this specific Berger … to fancy for shooting pigs.

 

[Josh11]

Tag. Something im looking at doing too.

I just need to find the right hunting bullet to shoot in one first.

Barnes Tac Tx has been great.

 

[Bill Norris]

From my experience with B R & Hunter 30BRs I like the 1 - 15 Tw. better for bullets weighing over 118 gr. I shoot the 125 gr. Nosler A B from a 23 inch barrel on a Model 7 Hunter @ 3000 + FPS with great accuracy. 1/4 inch groups at 100 yds. is very common. I have seen no issues with my rifle and bullet stability.

 

[Oso]

135gr Hornady FTX
125gr Lehigh Defense Controlled Chaos
115gr Lehigh Defense Tipped Xtreme Chaos
110gr Barnes TTSX or TSX
130gr Barnes TTSX or TSX

Barnes TAC-TX was designed specifically for 300BO. Barnes elongated the bullet (basically a triangle with no ogre) in order to reduce the excessive jump/gap of 300BO chamber. Chamber was designed to handle 220gr SMK for subsonic ammo. Also, this bullet designed to fully expand at the much slower velocity of 309BO (down to 1800 fps).

Barnes TSX & TTSX are designed with normal profile/ogee, better suited for majority .30 cal cartridges

 

[Bronsin]

My dad built another 30BR some years ago after he sold his first one to me. He built the new one with a 1:12" twist because he wanted to shoot some of the bullets that were 125-135grs with it. The problem he had was he just couldn't get enough velocity out of them to make them work well at 200yds. He then switched back to the Berger 115's and even though that barrel should be way too quick of a twist, he kicks the hell out of us at 200yds with it.

 

[X-Caveman]

I chambered a 17tw 3 groove Lilja with my zero freebore reamer for a short barrel hunting 30BR. If there’s one thing I’d do differently, it would be to add about .06” freebore.

 

[Big Mc]

For the 110-125 grain bullets, I’ve seen the br guys run the 1-15” to 1-18” twist. According to Begers website, these bullets are
“marginally stable”. We’re looking for the best groups obviously and out as far as we can. We’ve tested these bullets in a 1-10” and 1-12” and getting decent results. I know they are using the 1-17” twist for BR and such, I am really just looking for first hand knowledge.

1x17 is the way to go..

 

[jackieschmidt]

1x17 is the way to go..

^^^^^^^^

 

[FNSafari]

Tag. Something im looking at doing too.

I just need to find the right hunting bullet to shoot in one first.

Try the 125 Nosler BT or the 130 Sierra. If I was going to do up a hunting rifle in 30BR with 125/130 grain hunting bullets I would choose a 15 or 16" twist. Randy R swears by the effectiveness of his bullets for hunting.

 

[FNSafari]

I chambered a 17tw 3 groove Lilja with my zero freebore reamer for a short barrel hunting 30BR. If there’s one thing I’d do differently, it would be to add about .06” freebore.

Get or borrow a throating reamer

 

[JEFFPPC]

I have shoot both 17 and 18. Both were awesome. Best single barrel shooting mostly 112 or 115 gr bullets was an 18. I won matches out to 500 yds with it. I think shooter skill and quality of barrel and bullet means more than the twist. Remember, it's the Indian not the arrow 98 precent of the time. By the way, that barrel in the 7xxx round range won matches last year by the fellow I sold the rifle to.

 

[ebb]

Will a 17 twist stabilize the 130 grain Speer? As I understand it Speer has made a pointed version of the 130 flat nose Ive been using in my 30/30 for many years. I find the Speers to be accurate and inexpensive, and hope the Wilson (developed for the 300HMR Oso mentioned earlier) pointed version shoots as well as the older versions do.

 

[AlNyhus]

Will a 17 twist stabilize the 130 grain Speer?

The JBM Stability program will answer that question for you.

JBM - Calculations - Stability

www.jbmballistics.com

Good shootin' -Al

 

[joshb]

Will a 17 twist stabilize the 130 grain Speer? As I understand it Speer has made a pointed version of the 130 flat nose Ive been using in my 30/30 for many years. I find the Speers to be accurate and inexpensive, and hope the Wilson (developed for the 300HMR Oso mentioned earlier) pointed version shoots as well as the older versions do.

Ebb: I just went with a 14 twist Shillen on my new hunting 30br so I could shoot longer bullets. I have a ton of Sierra 125s that Randy said we’re too long for a 17 twist. I also have 500 135 grain customs and might try some 150s in the future. Initial testing with Speer 125s went well. I have some of the 135s loaded and waiting to shoot..
My other 2 30br guns are 17 twist that I shoot 117 grain customs in.

 

[ebb]

I bought 3 Montana rifleman barrels when they changed from making barrels for individuals to making barrels for rifle companies. Gary chambered the 30 caliber in 30-06 and screwed it to a Turk Mauser action. It is the gun that lives in my truck, when i was working on the ranch it was my last ditch protection from being eaten by hogs. I tried the lighter bullets as my shooting buddies at the time were going to light 30 calibers for the less than 250 yd shots we encounter here in the swamps. I tried the Sierra and could not get it to shoot as good as the 125 Nos BTs. I am going to buy a box of the Speers and try them in this same gun and see if the shoot as well as I hope they will. The 06 is a fast twist but I am wanting to try a 30 BR in the near future.