270 deer and coyote load

[j_22250]

looking for insight of what would be a decent bullet to kill both. up to now all i've used is 130 sp and have shot 2 deer and 1 cyote with them. all have been pass throughs, but was wanting more a varmint bullet for shooting coyotes. thought about trying 130 nbt's, but was wondering if the 110 vmax's might be better. also would the 90gr. HP be too light?

 

[Johnboy]

the 130g nbt's shot good in my 270 with 54-56 grains of imr4831.it put down a 220 lbs 8 pointer at 200yrds a few years ago.i would think that they would blow up and not pass through on a coyote.John

 

[j_22250]

did you get a passthru on that 8 point?

 

[2506]

As for getting pass through on deer with a 130 BT it all depends on where you hit them and at what yardage they are hit at. I have killed a few deer with the 270 using the 130 BT and Sierra bullets. THE LOAD for most 270 win I have fooled with is 60 grs H-4831 and that will give you 3050 to 3200 fps average depending on the barrel. It has been my experience that if you shoot a deer in the front shoulders broadside and the deer is inside 200 yards the bullet usually will not exit but most of the time you can find the jacket under the off side hide. Beyond 200 yards the bullet has slowed down enough that it holds together better and will exit. If you put one of these bullets through the ribs it will exit most of the time.

The 110 v-max or the 90 gr bullets are varmint bullets and they will explode. Unless you are willing to only take perfect broad side lung shots on a deer or a head or perfect neck shot I would not try them on deer.

It is hard to have the best of both worlds between coyote and deer loads.

Why are you so upset with a pass through?

 

[j_22250]

not upset with passthru's, but if the bullet went thru a deer at 200 yrds why would it not a coyote. the NBT's have a tapperd jacket and i would not of figured them to be that fragnible. i really thought they would be simular in performance as the sp's.

 

[Johnboy]

with my load I think that I was getting around 2900fps.and no it didn't pass through it took out his pumper.the nbt isn't made like the accubond or e-tip.many hunters in my area hate them because they just can not shoot.they do not retain their weight good,but if you put it were it needs to be it will take care of what ever it's shot at.John

 

[j_22250]

the difference between the two is the accubond's bonding process. i'm shooting the 140's right now, guess i'll have to try them out this year.

 

[2506]

The Accubond has a much thicker jacket in about the back half of the bullet than the Ballistic tip also. The Accubond works about like a Partition with a sleek polymer tip.

j_22250: You did not mention the make of the SP bullet you were using. Just because bullets are called a SP does not mean that they are all constructed the same and will react the same. Sierra SP and Hornady SP and Remington SP's all will react differently. The Sierra is a bit softer bullet the interlock Hornady SP holds together pretty well as well as the Rem. As I said earlier impact point and velocity have a great deal to do with it.

It has been my experience that the 140 gr 270 bullets are a little tougher bullet than the 130's mostly. Every one I have used or seen used on deer most often shoot through the average size deer broad side through the shoulders. I and my hunting buddy have used the 140 Hornady BTSP and the SST and the ballistic tips. We liked the 130 BT or Sierra best for deer.

 

[j_22250]

i'm shooting 140 NBT's right now. deer shot in the past have been with sierra 130 btsp. never hit one in the shoulder so i've always gotten pass thru's. i'm wanting a bullet suitable for deer yet give enough expansion for bustin' yotes. the soft points usually drop them pretty good, but was hoping to maybe get more expansion for the bullet to lose more of it's energy. i don't hunt places with sensitive backdrops, but i don't want a bullet that can keep going very far. i guess the 130 NBT might jst be what i'm after. i'd really like to try the v-max for coyotes, but don't want to mess with my scope right before deer season.

 

[North Fork]

I use 110gr v max on deer and coyotes but if you want to save the hide on a coyote don't use it.

 

[j_22250]

how does that bullet do on deer and what do you think your fps are?

 

[Bulseyetom]

I have used the Sierra 110 grain ProHunter with excellent results on deer in a 270 Weatherby at all ranges without much meat damage. I also have used the 110 grain Barnes Triple Schock in my 270 on one mule deer who dropped in his tracks at 200 yards shot in the shoulder. I now have some Nosler 110 grain Accubonds that I am going to try in the 270 Weatherby. Tom

 

[North Fork]

I have shot two white tails with the 110 gr vmax one was dead before he hit the ground the other went about 20 yards.

 

[j_22250]

i'm guessing the bullets did not exit.

 

[Robbert]

I have been hunting for Red Deer (Europe, weighing between 125 Kilo (female) and 225 Kilo (male)) and Wild boar with the 270 Win using 140 grain Barnes TSX and 54 gn H4350 and also 150 gn TSX with 54,5 VVN560 both with speeds above 3000 fps.
Experience upto 240 yards; all killers and always shot through when hit broadside.

 

[AckleymanII]

I shot the 90g Sierra hp with a load of IMR 3031 or AA2700 with amazing accuracy out of my Rem 700's, crows, turtles, rabbits, just a great varmint load. Velocity was in the 3500 fps area.

 

[CJ6]

The 110 V Max isn't real good for SAVING meat on deer either.

 

[bankenfeld]

j.22250 ,your problem is not the coyote load ,as you can kill them with any bullet,it is the deer load.
I am using a 270 win ackley for a lott of my longrange hunting and culling ,the swift scirocco is one of the best bullets i have used on game from springbuck at around 45kg , blesbuck at 100kg up to gemsbuck and blue wildebeest at more than 250kg,these bullets are very accurate and even on shoulder shots at 3350fps they do not break up ,the penetration is very good.
I would recommend a strongly constructed bullet that is accurate in your rifle for the deer hunting ,you will have less bloodshot meat that way , the coyotes will be dead as well and the stronger bullets will not destroy the hide if you are a hide hunter.

Kind regards and happy hunting


Willem