25-06 rem

[nastynatesfish]

Snide there's no spot for 25 cal I'm gonna post it here.
I've been loading and workin on my rifle to try and get it to shoot and it's almost a disc race with the "pattern" it'll shoot. I've tried 75, 100 and 115 gr bullers with h4350.varget, h1000. I ordered some 115 Bergers because if it won't shoot those I'm gonna order a new barrel. I'm gonna load them with the H1000 to try. I have h4831 but don't want to use it in this rifle. It's a rem 700. Not sure which model(sps, adl, bdl etc). It's a 24" stainless matte. Have a Timney trigger in it and a full bed block houge on it. I loaded some rounds last night from 58-59.8 in .3 increments and started with the bullet seated at 3.231" which gives a .150 jump. That's where my 7 mag shoots best to start also. Gonna go shoot some tomorrow after work.
Wondering if anyone has tried the combo?

 

[Larryh128]

I've shot 25-06's for more years than I care to remember. My load for 30 years has been 52 grs H4831 x 115 Ballistic Tip x CCI200 primer. Super accurate hunting load. If it does shoot that load, you have an issue. I load COL for a magazine fit more than a chamber fit. Haven't seen a 25-06 yet that wouldn't shoot that load. From your description, my GUESS is that there is a bedding issue. Either a barrel rub or the full length bedding block needs to be skim bedded(most likely). Haven't seen a full length aluminum bedding block(yet) that skim bedding wouldn't help. Just too many variables to produce a stock and think that the action will fit perfectly.

 

[germanlongbow]

75 gr Vmax IMR 4064 52 grains federal 210M primers. 20 thousands jump. Also 115 gr Nosler BT's, Federal 210 Match primers, 51 grains H4831sc. Both loads 1/4 - 1/2 moa out to 500 yards. Scott

 

[nastynatesfish]

I don't want to run my 4831 since I use it in my 7mag. I like have a 8 lb jug of powder per rifle to use. It's that or I switch my 7mag to h1000. The rifle shot the same before the stock that's a big reason I got the stock. Maybe I'll bed it too but I want to find something g that shoots decent first. I have 115 nosler hunting bullets also and the only way teh shot decent was at 48gr rl19 and seated way long but it was still over 1-1/2" group. I'm gonna go try my loads too erode and see what they'll do

 

[Larryh128]

try the H4831 & if it likes it, buy another jug. In my opinion H1000 is too slow to get any good results. 4350 or RL-19 would be better choices. RL-19 & 4831 are very close to the same burn rate.

 

[tome]

I have a tikka 25-06 that will not shoot 120gr factory under 2" @ 100m. really disappointed .I tried some light bullets ( 87 gr sp hornady ) with imr4350 and a win. lr primer. shoots just about 1 hole 3 shot group @ 100m. now I am going to try 100gr and i'll bet it shoots them well.it just doesn't like 120gr bullets

 

[nastynatesfish]

I've found anytime I used h1000 I load a bit over max but I get good good accuracy and velocity. I'll try some before I go to 4831. I WISH I could just go grab another jug. That stuff is like catching fairys

 

[wapiti25]

I have found 100 gr bullets such as Sierra FB with IMR 4350 to be an accuracy load in several 2506's, it may give you some insight as to whether the rifle will shoot well. The Hornady 120 HP would never shoot in several rifles I tried it in. My 25's are sporter barrels for hunting/field shooting and all when fed good ammo would shoot about 3/4 Moa at 200 yds. The 115 Nosler BT seemed to be easy to load for I have taken a break from shooting them and not tried the Berger 115's, 117 Sierra's shot well.

 

[Larryh128]

I haven't had an issue finding H4831 in any of my normal haunts.

 

[lawman29]

53.5 gr RL19 & 100 gr nosler btip. Consistently 1/2 inch. A little less powder also shot well.

 

[2506]

Worked with the 25-06 for many years. H-4831 and one of the 4350s usually really shoots well. I have found that most cup and core bullets like to jump a ways. 20 thousands or more. My custom Rem 700 Shilen barrel does not like boat tail bullets. It shoots like a bench rest rifle with flat base bullets though. The load that I use in it is 49 grs IMR 4350, Remington case, CCI 250 mag primer and the Sierra 117 Pro Hunter flat base bullet 20 thousands off the lands. Out of the 26" tube it runs 3000 fps and well under half moa. This combo kills deer dead right now in their tracks about 99% of the time.

Free float your barrel and bed your action and shoot you at least 20 rounds through it after you have clean it and don't clean it until your accuracy starts to fall off. Check the crown on the barrel also. A little valve grinding compound and a round head brass screw in a drill run slowly placed on the muzzle will work wonders on some rifles that may have a crown problem.

 

[nastynatesfish]

Rifles in good shape. Crowns good no issue there. The rifle gas a real long throat. I think that's half the problem with it. If I put a 100 gr game king in to touch lands it sont stay in the case. I've worked a lotta loads through it. I've been working with imr4350 and rl 19. Well see how it works with my next run.

 

[kyreloader]

58.4g H1000 with the 115g VLDs 0.120 off the lands shot very well in my factory Ruger barrel as well as the PacNor that is on it currently.

I have since switched to 60g of Retumbo with same bullet and seating depth. That load gets me 3200fps with 1/2 MOA accuracy from my 25" PacNor barrel. I killed an 8 point whitetail this year at 614 yards with that combo.

The usual cautions.

 

[tome]

no lie about shooting the barrel dirty. when I clean , the groups open way up, 10 shots or so, I'm back to small groups with the 87 gr bullets. I had a custom stock made by lone wolf . it's glass and pillar bedded. I still have the tikka barrel on it. it's a pencil barrel hunting rifle, not a bench gun. where I hunt, all of the shots are long, over cut corn . the fields here are flat as a board and huge. you shoot from elevated house blinds.

 

[Barlow]

This subject was discussed a few weeks ago on this forum. IIRC the consensus was a 9 twist was needed to stabilize long bullets. I have had the same problem with the 25-06's and 257AI's that I have loaded for. Anything over 100 grains was not consistant. If I ever rebarrel my 257AI, I may do a 1 in 8.5. Barlow

 

[kyreloader]

This subject was discussed a few weeks ago on this forum. IIRC the consensus was a 9 twist was needed to stabilize long bullets. I have had the same problem with the 25-06's and 257AI's that I have loaded for. Anything over 100 grains was not consistant. If I ever rebarrel my 257AI, I may do a 1 in 8.5. Barlow

I have no trouble shooting 115g Bergers in my 10 twist barrels. I have shot 108g JLKs/110g BIBs (just as long as 115g Berger) and all have shot really well for me.

Barlow, are there any barrel manufactures that make barrels with twist faster than 1:9? Looking quickly:
Bartlein 1:10, Krieger 1:9, 1:10, Broughton 1:12, 1:14, Benchmark 1:9, 1:10, 1:12, Shilen 1:9/10/12/13, Rock -none listed but states 1:5-1:35+.

I just find it hard to believe at .25-06 velocities that it is a stabilization issues. Bryan Litz and Berger Bullets feels like 1:10 is fast enough to stabilize their 115g VLDs as well. I could understand if your barrel is not a true 1:10, but otherwise doubt that is the cause. Check your twist and let us know.

 

[Todd DuBose]

Snide there's no spot for 25 cal I'm gonna post it here.

Being a person that is very fond of the 25 caliber, I have always wondered why there is not a slot for these fine calibers...Can anyone tell me why they are not included?

Almost forgot to add my comment...Sounds to me like the reamer that cut your chamber has way too much throat for the 100s. Have you tried 115 gr. Noslers out of it?

 

[Barlow]

No, I never checked available twist rates. I could get good hunting accuracy, but never any solid moa strings of groups. Could be just my rifles, but I would definitely go with a 1 in 9 if that's the fastest obtainable. Barlow

 

[Barlow]

I forgot, I will check the twist rate on my 257AI. Barlow

 

[Barlow]

Just checked, it's 1 in 10. Barlow