22 slr
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Seems like your already close to one....
Close, I really like the 22/243. Just always looking for someone new to try.
I appreciate everyone opinions but I ask if anyone had a 22slr. I'm fully aware the 6mmslr has about 54gr capacity vs 55for a 243. I'm looking at a better case design and longer neck. After shooting who knows how may rounds from a 22/243 over the last12 years I'm just looking for something new. Again, I appreciate everyone's concern for barrel life but after shooting a 22/243 I think I got that one covered too. I do my own work so not a real concern
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The 22-243 Middlested kinda splits the difference between vanilla .22-243 & .22-243AI, very similar to what the SLR might do?
If your reasoning is to mitigate case stretch, then I'd sooner go full blown 40° AI, and enjoy the extra capacity reward. I never found my .22-243 to be lacking in the accuracy dept., so dunno how the longer neck of an SLR might benefit? And with losing capacity over the vanilla .22-243, a .22SLR would be close to matching that of a .22Creed. Just askin', if you're willing to give up capacity, what are you hoping to gain, in trade?
If ya already have SLR dies, it'd be easy enough to do a .22SLR. Only one way to find out, and that's to build it! We all know it don't take much excuse for that...
If your reasoning is to mitigate case stretch, then I'd sooner go full blown 40° AI, and enjoy the extra capacity reward. I never found my .22-243 to be lacking in the accuracy dept., so dunno how the longer neck of an SLR might benefit? And with losing capacity over the vanilla .22-243, a .22SLR would be close to matching that of a .22Creed. Just askin', if you're willing to give up capacity, what are you hoping to gain, in trade?
If ya already have SLR dies, it'd be easy enough to do a .22SLR. Only one way to find out, and that's to build it! We all know it don't take much excuse for that...
XTR
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I haven't built a 22SLR but I do have a 6SLR and the case capacity loss from a 243 is greatly overstated. I measured the capacity of my cases last Dec.
My fired WW SLR was 167.8gr, my new WW 234 was 166.3gr volumes were
identical 53.7gr of water.
The SLR is a fired case and the 243 is brand new out of the bag.
My fired WW SLR was 167.8gr, my new WW 234 was 166.3gr volumes were
identical 53.7gr of water.
The SLR is a fired case and the 243 is brand new out of the bag.
I wish someone would, shorten, the "Body" a bit then,"blowout" a .22-250 Rem case with, a 35* shoulder and a .280 - .300 long Neck, to get better Bbl life with the flexability" to adjust bullets as, the throat goes south ( still holding, one caliber in Neck ) and have,.. great accuracy ! THE perfect,.. IMO,.. .22-250 Ackley "SUPER Improved" , kinda like the 6XC is, to a .243 ! Okay I'll stop Dreamin now ! I guess it would be something like a .22XC, 35* ! Anybody doing "that" ???
I guess, I'll just have to be "happy" with, the .22-250 AI for now !
I guess, I'll just have to be "happy" with, the .22-250 AI for now !
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Idaho-Lefty -
Howdy!
“.....wish someone would, shorten, the "Body" a bit then,"blowout" a .22-250 Rem case with, a 35* shoulder and a .280 - .300 long Neck.}”
“...guess it would be something like a .22XC, 35* ! Anybody doing "that?”
I have wildcatted .35 Remington down to .224” caliber, for a case capacity between that of a stock .22-250; and the .22-250AI.
The 1.920” case oal of the parent .35Rem pre-dates that of the .22Creedmoor, and also the somewhat similar .22-47L; and .22XC.
I retained the .35Rem’s stock shoulder location and shoulder diam.
“ .22-35Rem “ w/ it’s first generation shoulder angle of 26* and 1.920” oal features a neck lg of .250”......greater than one caliber.
Even were the shoulder angle to be sharpened to 35*, neck lg would still not approach .300”. Moreover, comparing the 26* shoulder iteration to a 35*version would show a powder capacity reduction resulting from the shoulder sharpening
I wrote P.O. Ackley to ask his input on my .22-35Remington wildcat.
He responded back saying “..... The .35Remington should make a good .22 caliber cartridge when necked down to take the smaller bullet. “
I took that as a pretty good passing grade on my first wildcat design!
My point:
Ackley was the granddaddy of sharp shoulder wildcat design.
His response letter did not include any negative response concerning my use of an easy-to-form. 26* shoulder angle.
.
.35 Rem feeds and extracts just fine in my Wichita WBR1375 action, whiich features a standard .308 bolt face. Fred Sinclair had outfitted the Wichita w/ an M-16 extractor, and I’ve experienced no extraction problems when using the .35Rem-based wildcat.
.22-35 is 1,000yd- capable for both varmint/target when shot from a 28” barrel, albeit 29” would be a tad more sensible; as regards deliverable energy. In my 28” barrel, I shot 75”A”-Max exclusively. The .250” neck lg never appeared to be negative.
In the first .22-35 barrel I had ( Hart 24” SS 5-groove 1-14 ), the barrel had shot more than 3,400 ends before it ever keyholed (Hornady 55SX).
*** Had I not cleaned the first couple years of its use using an un-coated steel cleaning rod, and worse..... had Cryo done on the barrel when it was well past it’s 1/2 life.... I’m convinced the original 24” 1-14 would have gone @ least 4,000rnds. And... I was shooting WW760/H414 ball over
FED Large Magnum Rifle Match.
I have a different wildcat design in-mind, that would feature a .300” + neck lg, and uses 7X6(4 Brenneke as the parent case.
I’d be happy to share details. Maybe a PM would be appropriate?
With regards,
357Mag
Howdy!
“.....wish someone would, shorten, the "Body" a bit then,"blowout" a .22-250 Rem case with, a 35* shoulder and a .280 - .300 long Neck.}”
“...guess it would be something like a .22XC, 35* ! Anybody doing "that?”
I have wildcatted .35 Remington down to .224” caliber, for a case capacity between that of a stock .22-250; and the .22-250AI.
The 1.920” case oal of the parent .35Rem pre-dates that of the .22Creedmoor, and also the somewhat similar .22-47L; and .22XC.
I retained the .35Rem’s stock shoulder location and shoulder diam.
“ .22-35Rem “ w/ it’s first generation shoulder angle of 26* and 1.920” oal features a neck lg of .250”......greater than one caliber.
Even were the shoulder angle to be sharpened to 35*, neck lg would still not approach .300”. Moreover, comparing the 26* shoulder iteration to a 35*version would show a powder capacity reduction resulting from the shoulder sharpening
I wrote P.O. Ackley to ask his input on my .22-35Remington wildcat.
He responded back saying “..... The .35Remington should make a good .22 caliber cartridge when necked down to take the smaller bullet. “
I took that as a pretty good passing grade on my first wildcat design!
My point:
Ackley was the granddaddy of sharp shoulder wildcat design.
His response letter did not include any negative response concerning my use of an easy-to-form. 26* shoulder angle.
.
.35 Rem feeds and extracts just fine in my Wichita WBR1375 action, whiich features a standard .308 bolt face. Fred Sinclair had outfitted the Wichita w/ an M-16 extractor, and I’ve experienced no extraction problems when using the .35Rem-based wildcat.
.22-35 is 1,000yd- capable for both varmint/target when shot from a 28” barrel, albeit 29” would be a tad more sensible; as regards deliverable energy. In my 28” barrel, I shot 75”A”-Max exclusively. The .250” neck lg never appeared to be negative.
In the first .22-35 barrel I had ( Hart 24” SS 5-groove 1-14 ), the barrel had shot more than 3,400 ends before it ever keyholed (Hornady 55SX).
*** Had I not cleaned the first couple years of its use using an un-coated steel cleaning rod, and worse..... had Cryo done on the barrel when it was well past it’s 1/2 life.... I’m convinced the original 24” 1-14 would have gone @ least 4,000rnds. And... I was shooting WW760/H414 ball over
FED Large Magnum Rifle Match.
I have a different wildcat design in-mind, that would feature a .300” + neck lg, and uses 7X6(4 Brenneke as the parent case.
I’d be happy to share details. Maybe a PM would be appropriate?
With regards,
357Mag
@ 357Mag,.. I was just doing a little "wishful thinking" out loud as, I want a cartridge with, very little case forming, "work" involved, readily avail Dies, load data, Reamer's and NO chance for "Doughnuts", etc. Since the .22-250 Ack Imp 40* is EZ , proven and accurate, I'll stay with it,..and "live" with the short neck,.. PLUS, I already have 3-400 rounds of .22-250 Brass ! Thanks for the reply, tho !
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