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.22 benchrest

Wolfen said:
Thanks Guys for the comments. However, you still haven't answered my question about why are only the Anschutz and some "Custom" Receivers good enough for BR work.

Also, what about the Schultz & Larsen MD35 or 60?

Wolfen

They are not the only ones (good enough).
It's just easier to obtain results.
Beating the better equipment was my first goal and I took pride in beating a big $ rig.
Now I'm trying to get a little more serious and move up in rankings.
If you buy a used one and change your mind you will still get your money out.
A re-worked CZ - Savage will not.
The important thing to remember is have fun.
In the end it's what you want - so pick your poison.
 
Wolfen said:
Thanks Guys for the comments. However, you still haven't answered my question about why are only the Anschutz and some "Custom" Receivers good enough for BR work.

Also, what about the Schultz & Larsen MD35 or 60?

Wolfen

When I first got into .22 benchrest, I was shooting barnyard matches with, like most others, a 10/22. A local gun shop had a CZ 452 benchrest rifle on the rack for $1000.00, I bought it. This rifle used a CZ 452 scout (youth rifle) action, Benchmark reverse taper barrel, Hoehn tuner in a BR-50 stock. It shot good and I even won a few ARA targets and a match or two with it that season. To answer your Wolfen as to why the CZ receivers are not good enough for BR work. The main reason is the triggers. There are no real benchrest triggers made for these actions. My trigger was down to something like 8 ounces. I shot all of my .22 bench guns free recoil and with this rifle, sometimes just the pressure of the left index finger would move the point of aim before the shot broke. There was a guy working on a trigger for the CZ a year or two ago. I do not know how that project is coming along. If you could hang a Jewell on a CZ, I think you would see more of them on the shooting line.
 
MGYSGT said:
I just want to know where you get Midas plus for $14.50 a box.


Tom

Hi Tom,
Well, I just checked and apparently Champion Shooters has had a price increase to $15.50 a box as well as for 500 rounds. The only way you can get it for $14.20 is to buy a case and that'll cost you $1420.00. I bought 1000 rounds back in around August and thats when it cost me $14.50 box. But $15.50 a box still isn't bad compared to a lot of places where I see it going anywhere from $16.20 - $20 a box. Seems like all Rimfire ammo is starting to go up again everywhere.
 
I shoot a Savage MKi single shot with Leupold 36 BR scope and Midas Plus and win on a USBR target in sporter and custom class. Paid $400 for the rifle and scope. I've shot a 241 USBR score.
 
How about the Savage Anschutz that were imported a while back, they imported some 64's that were set up for target work if I recall correctly. Can these shoot competitively, or with the addition of a shilen barrel can they?

I ask as it seems like these are available on Gunbroker occasionally for under $600.

Thanks
wade
 
Rim fire shooting is in the ammunition . A good gun can be had for two grand . You can easy spend 10 grand on ammunition . And you still won't be competitive . Larry
 
I shoot a MKII BSA, only mod is a Phoenix Precision rear sight. I constantly whip the Annies and 52 crowd at our local shoots on the 23/5 targets. I do 200-17x on a regular basis at 50 yards with that set up. $600 for the rifle, and $450 for the sights. It likes SK Rifle Match best at $7.50 a box.
 
It really depends on what level you are going to use it in. Local money shoots you could get by with a cz or an Annie. If your going to shoot a PSL match you will want at least a rebarreled 40x or anschutz if you expect to get a sniff. Some factory 40s and Annie's can be competive in ARA on a local level, but when you take that show on the road to the Nationals, it will be a differant story. 12-15 years ago you would still see some factory barreled guns with factory stocks on the line, but not much anymore. Probably at least 90% of the field are using custom barrels, actions and stocks. Trying to make factory guns shoot with customs will be a money pit. A good used bench rifle can be had between $1,500-$2,000. You can have a new one built for less than $2500. I've seen people dump over $1500 into 10/22s and other rigs trying to save money, but in the end they don't compeate and you will play hell trying to get your money back out of them. I know, I rebarreled a HR model12 about 15 years ago, I had it pillar bedded, spent a pile of money and it still wasn't compitive. It shot "good" sub1/4" groups at 50yds, but not compitive. I sold it for $700 bucks at a loss and was actually happy I recovered a bit of it back.
 
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I would recommend looking out for a used Anschutz 54 in classifieds, you can find these for around $1,000 if you arent super fussy about the stock being a little bumped around.
I love CZ's and I have seen them win on occasion at our local 100yd. matches, but the lock time, trigger, and match chamber in the Anschutz make it superior.
If you plan on modifying the CZ (Lilja barrel, stock etc.) you will have more $ invested, and it wont hold the value of the Anschutz.
I respect the hell out of CZ's, and the Savage. Both great rifles, but in benchrest I would look elsewhere.
I don't shoot an Annie, I use a Winchester 52D. It shoots great, and I win from time to time, but it is about the same $ as a used Annie, and I think they have the edge on me.
just my $0.02, good luck, and have fun with whatever rig you choose.
 
This is an older post but still relevant and bound to be read by someone with a similar question Re starting out with Bench RIMFIRE SHOOTING .

Just reading the above posts is ringing so true to my journey.
I was fortunate to have good club equipment to start me off and even more fortunate to be offered an old Walther target rifle that had been used as a prone rifle before I bought it and made small modes to make it suitable for BR.
I always remembered that competing against new big dollar rifles was more than a challenge and there was the occasional time I was able to out score them so with that in mind I was able to be content with what I had and tried to compete against my self at my best. Enjoyment is the name of the game.

I have just upgraded it to a new Anschutz but for the last 6 years my 55 year old KKM did the job without too many dollars outlaid and recommend to the newbie to buy an inexpensive purpose built target rifle without ploughing big dollars into converting a field type rifle to try shoot well enough to be satisfied or be somewhat competitive.
Just my opinion for all its worth.



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