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22 ARC Opinions.

Reviving this thread…. I’m having a 22arc bolt gun built. Dedicated coyote rifle. I like that I could still have impressive ballistics with an 18” barrel.

I’d love to find a bullet that hit’s them like lightning, but never exits. Has anyone found that? I hear the 62gr ELD-VT at ~3400 may be the ticket… what about lighter bullets?
 
I wasn't impressed with the 62 ELD-VT with my 22 ARC bolt or AR. Out to 150 yds, I was having MASSIVE
blowouts on the exit side of the hit. Seeing as I hunt at night and my typical range is less than 200 yds, I have gone with 53 grain Vmax. A friend has tried 50 grain and has had great success. I may barrel a rifle with a slower twist to try some 40 grainers just to see what happens.

To be fair, I think the 62 grain bullet is a great improvement over the VMax and wish Hornady would put that technology into a little lighter bullet and smaller caliber bullets.

Gundog
 
I wasn't impressed with the 62 ELD-VT with my 22 ARC bolt or AR. Out to 150 yds, I was having MASSIVE
blowouts on the exit side of the hit. Seeing as I hunt at night and my typical range is less than 200 yds, I have gone with 53 grain Vmax. A friend has tried 50 grain and has had great success. I may barrel a rifle with a slower twist to try some 40 grainers just to see what happens.

To be fair, I think the 62 grain bullet is a great improvement over the VMax and wish Hornady would put that technology into a little lighter bullet and smaller caliber bullets.

Gundog
I think your on the right track with a 40 V-max. Awesome coyote bullet that rarely exits leaving a nice pelt. The 62 Eld-VT is a great long range bullet in my 8 twist Tikka T3 that has my attention at the moment. First round hit on a small white rock at 825 yds yesterday dicking around from a bipod laying in the dirt! This 62 Eld-VT in a .223 is a great match and makes for some fun outings with my pups. With my new magazine mod they feed like milk through a goose. Good shooting to you.
Paul
 
I wasn't impressed with the 62 ELD-VT with my 22 ARC bolt or AR. Out to 150 yds, I was having MASSIVE
blowouts on the exit side of the hit. Seeing as I hunt at night and my typical range is less than 200 yds, I have gone with 53 grain Vmax. A friend has tried 50 grain and has had great success. I may barrel a rifle with a slower twist to try some 40 grainers just to see what happens.

To be fair, I think the 62 grain bullet is a great improvement over the VMax and wish Hornady would put that technology into a little lighter bullet and smaller caliber bullets.

Gundog
Was that factory ammo you were using that had the blow outs? Also, what twist are you using with the 53grainers?

Huge majority of my shots are 150 and in, so that feedback on the 62s concerns me
 
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I just built a gas gun using the 62eldvt and it’s running 3390 and I’m getting 1moa 10 shot groups at 700 yards. The come up is 12moa. The fact that I can shoot an ar15 at 700 yards is impressive to me.
William, comtemplating a gas gun build in the very near future. Would you mind sharing your build components as I am relatively new to the AR15 world. I would like to get the build correct the first time. Lol. Congrats on your tac driving AR15. The 62 Eld-VT is definitely a game changer in the small .22 center fire arena. Good shooting to you.
Paul
 
Coyote shooters have really multiplied in the last five years. They seem to have very specific requirements that really don't apply to the other varmint shooters. Most varmint shooters are are looking for as much carnage as they can get, which the 62 eldvt applies in spades with a BC nearly double the others.

I wish they would take the 88 ELDM and hollow out the front of the bullet like they did with the 62 eldvt. Make it a 78 or something with a BC of .54 and explode like a grenade.

Ohhhh wait...

 
William, comtemplating a gas gun build in the very near future. Would you mind sharing your build components as I am relatively new to the AR15 world. I would like to get the build correct the first time. Lol. Congrats on your tac driving AR15. The 62 Eld-VT is definitely a game changer in the small .22 center fire arena. Good shooting to you.
Paul
I got my barrel from EABCO. All my other components are probably useless to you because all my AR’s are left handed. I do use TriggerTech Diamond two stage triggers in all my AR’s except the one with a red dot sight and that has a Geislie or however it’s spelled. 3 lb on the red dot. 1 lb on everything else.
 
I guess I'll chime in. I currently have a 22 ARC build going and I'm using a Howa mini action. This will be my primary coyote rifle. I really like the reads I've done on it and love the BC's. I'm building it around the Hornady 62-grain ELD-VT. I choose a Benchmark barrel with an 8 twist. I have high hopes for this build!
 
I don’t know if this cartridge will inspire more people to move into using it, but once I noticed it was based off the Grendel, and the very old PPC….. I thought it would make a great bolt .22 bolt gun!

I’ve had an Impact Precision 737R S/A sitting around for three years, and found a ARC/Grendel bolt in stock. Only it ended up being a 75° bolt, not the 90° that I originally ordered.

I got in contact with Impact Precision and they were kind enough to make me a 90° bolt.


I ended up buying a Bartlein 5R #3 in SS w/a 1:7 twist for the project, Hawkins Hunter bottom metal and ARC magazine, TT Diamond 2 stage, all to be set in a MCS EH6A stock which I’ll have to wait to get made. Plus Alpha 22 ARC brass, Redding Type S F/L die, Berger 80.5 Full Bore and LRHT bullets to feed it.

On paper the cartridge came from a winning breed from a by-gone era, only to be brought to life as the Grendel, and now another new case by Hornady. Busy as bees over their no thanks to George Gardner of GA Precision giving Jason Hornady ideas for newer and newer cartridge’s to invent and bring to market.

Time will tell…..
 
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Just built one on a Small shank Savage action Bartlein 26" barrel on a MDT stock, this is my price fighter target rifle for the grand kids. Hornady brass, 88ELDs, N140, GM205M primers getting 2858 FPS and 5.5 SDs, and its a true under 1/2 moa rifle mostly 3/8 moa, using Hornady dies loading on a Dillion XL750 but use Autotrickler for powder measurement. It isnt a "sweet little rifle" but she shoots like one.
 
Recently got back from a prairie dog trip. My son's 20 Practical upper was having pressure issues with the last worked up for it so he ended up taking my 22ARC. He did a great job with it, never missed within 200 yards. We had it out to 500+ and took a few dogs out there, with the 62 VT it's a killer combination.

I built a Howa Mini in 6ARC but truth is the 22ARC is uniformly ballistically superior in both drop and drift.

Longest kill of the trip was my 223AI with 53gr vmax, but honestly the 22ARC would have had a slight edge in that shot if my son hadn't been using it.
 
The biggest drawback to most of these new cartridges coming out is lack of brass. I still have trouble finding quality 6.8spc brass for my 25DTI
Can't Honestly say that the 22 ARC has grown on me as of yet. Though if I was to embrace this chambering I think I would also embrace Alpha brass as the brass of choice.

 
For killing coyotes, we have found the 77MKs work really well. Both my son in laws and grandson shoot them in their 22 Creedmoor's too. They don't seem to tear up the hides so bad as the lighter hunting bullets do. You guys going to 40s I would advise against that. When we used to use the 22-250s and they came out with the 40gr bullets we all thought that would be the answer for killing yotes. We lost several coyotes from the bullet actually "Blowing up on the "Hide". We knocked one down and it got up howling and ran off!! We hit it on the shoulder, and it actually blew a hand sized hunk of hide and hair off of him!!! Just my thoughts on it. Even when I went to the 6mms I stayed with the match bullets. They just seemed to work well and not tear shit up... Oh, and with my 22ARC I am getting 3150fps out of a 22" barrel with the 77s and it shoots pretty steady in the .3s for 5 shot groups....
 
For killing coyotes, we have found the 77MKs work really well. Both my son in laws and grandson shoot them in their 22 Creedmoor's too. They don't seem to tear up the hides so bad as the lighter hunting bullets do. You guys going to 40s I would advise against that. When we used to use the 22-250s and they came out with the 40gr bullets we all thought that would be the answer for killing yotes. We lost several coyotes from the bullet actually "Blowing up on the "Hide". We knocked one down and it got up howling and ran off!! We hit it on the shoulder, and it actually blew a hand sized hunk of hide and hair off of him!!! Just my thoughts on it. Even when I went to the 6mms I stayed with the match bullets. They just seemed to work well and not tear shit up... Oh, and with my 22ARC I am getting 3150fps out of a 22" barrel with the 77s and it shoots pretty steady in the .3s for 5 shot groups....
Is yours an AR or Bolt gun?
 

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