17 Hornet disappeared ?

[DLT]

I have been burning up local gun shops and pawn shops and the grand stink gun shows. Can’t find a hornet rifle anywhere. I can run across ammo but no rifle

 

[thebeav]

I would think that's a difficult local find.
There are 12 of them , or so, on Gunbroker.....

 

[B23]

Since CZ stopped production of their 527's I think about the only manufacture chambering something in 17 Hornet is Savage.

I haven't seen any new 17 Hornet ammo anywhere in a long time.

 

[Tommie]

Since CZ stopped production of their 527's I think about the only manufacture chambering something in 17 Hornet is Savage.

I haven't seen any new 17 Hornet ammo anywhere in a long time.

Did Ruger discontinue their 17 Hornet?

 

[Mark M.]

I have been burning up local gun shops and pawn shops and the grand stink gun shows. Can’t find a hornet rifle anywhere. I can run across ammo but no rifle

I don't know what your budget is, but for the price of what some of these 17 hornets go for when they become available is way more than what they're worth. (CZ) I would look into building something custom, why pay 3 times the retail amount and end up with something that's "just ok".

 

[B23]

Did Ruger discontinue their 17 Hornet?

I forgot all about Ruger making the 77/17HH. You hardly ever see them but I believe Ruger still makes one too.

 

[DLT]

I don't know what your budget is, but for the price of what some of these 17 hornets go for when they become available is way more than what they're worth. (CZ) I would look into building something custom, why pay 3 times the retail amount and end up with something that's "just ok".

That’s exactly where I’m at with it. I know they wasn’t pricey when they came out

 

[Mark M.]

That’s exactly where I’m at with it. I know they wasn’t pricey when they came out

I am a big CZ fan, I have had several, including the 17 hornet, I thought they were a great value for the money before the prices inflated.
The 17 hornet it self is a very limited proformance round, its very finicky to load for, achieving consistent accuracy can be frustrating, the brass quality just isn't there, loose primer pockets and inconsistencies are common, the cartridge is ok cool, but if you just have to have one, then have one.
In hine sight, I would suggest building a 20 vartarg, this thing has everything going for it, its a very efficient round using only about 18 grs of powder, brass quality is excellent, proformance and
accuracy are unbelievable, you can even buy brass ready to load. plus it opens up a wide range a available options as far as actions and or rifles to work with. just my two cents

 

[moorepower]

I am big CZ fan, I have had several, including the 17 hornet, I thought they were a great value for the money before the prices inflated.
The 17 hornet it self is very limited proformance round, its very finicky to load for, achieving consistent accuracy can be frustrating, the brass quality just isn't there, loose primer pockets and inconsistencies are common, the cartridge is ok cool, but if you just have to have one, then have one.
In hine sight, I would suggest building a 20 vartarg, this thing has everything going for it, its very efficient round using only about 18 grs of powder, brass quality is excellent, proformance and
accuracy is unbelievable, you can even buy brass ready to load. plus it opens up a wide range a available options as far as actions and or rifles to work with. just my two cents

I have none of the issues of what you speak. There were lots of the brass years ago that had crimped primer pockets that was one and done. As long as I don't try to make it into a .17FB, and load to 3600 with 20 grain vmax, I am getting good case life. Is the brass Lapua? No. Will it do what a Vartarg will do? No, but I in mild wind, I am getting 300-350 yd shots on Pdogs with regularity. It's not a BR round, nor is it meant to be, but if you can get by with 3/8-1/2" groups, it's a fun little round.

 

[JSH]

I wish I had my 527 17HH back, just to resell it and see what it brings today. Sold mine on line, $1400ish.
I am like Mark I had a lot of issues. Brass weight by a large margin, I weight sorted and that solved a bunch. My 17WSM took the place of the 17HH.
I built a 17FB that filled in the gap even more. No brass issues, solid sub MOA out to 300 when I do my part. And I can load it down to 17HH if I so desire. I run nothing but 20 grain bullets in mine. I run the heavies in my 17 Remington.
I purpose barreled a rifle in 20VT just to burn up all the 32’s I have. The 204R sees nothing but 40’s in my hand loads, still have a plenty of factory 32’s.

 

[Rocky Mt High]

were the CZ 527 s available in different barrel weights/ contours?
I have one here I haven’t looked at in a while and it looks heavier, like a varmint weight?

 

[B23]

were the CZ 527 s available in different barrel weights/ contours?
I have one here I haven’t looked at in a while and it looks heavier, like a varmint weight?

They made two different models, the "American" which was more of a 21.5 inch sporter weight barrel and the "Varmint" which was a heavier contour at 24 inches long.

 

[rickiesrevenge]

I think that the 17 hornet is about perfect for cats and fox.

 

[NZ_Fclass]

I shot both the Ruger and the Savage before I bought mine. Nothing between them for 100yd groups with factory ammo. The CZ was not available down here at the time. I settled on the Savage as it had a nicer stock. Very pleased with it. Easy to load - factory speeds with CFE-BLK and accurate enough for 300 metre bunnies.

 

[1mil]

I've been looking for a 17HH for almost a year for a friend...finally gave up.
I shot the 527 Varmint for a year on rats and dogs ... fell in love...still in love. So much so I bought an Anschutz 1771 in 17HH. I sold the CZ recently because I knew it would sit in the safe. The Anschutz is just remarkable if you can find the cash. Prarie Dogs at 250 to 300yrds (no wind)were almost too easy.

 

[Tommie]

For the past few years niche cartridges have been kicked to the curb by ammunition companies. No big surprise. Just old fashioned, mundane supply & demand. Same reason Sierra has suspended 20 caliber bullets for the time being. Fear not. Every shortage seems like the end of the world until it isn’t.

 

[Litespeed]

I have seen .17 Hornet ammo at a few stores recently that didn't have it previously. As for rifles, none to be seen anywhere. i got lucky and picked up a CZ527 for retail a couple months ago. It was in the shop for months and I started to feel bad about it just sitting there. It certainly shoots well and I'm just now getting ready to load for it.

 

[danny]

I don't know what your budget is, but for the price of what some of these 17 hornets go for when they become available is way more than what they're worth. (CZ) I would look into building something custom, why pay 3 times the retail amount and end up with something that's "just ok".

Just goes to show you, CZ had a real winner on their hands, then they got rid of it. Shame on them.

Danny

 

[17cal Fan]

In 2019 I was in position to purchase CZ at a discounted price. I asked for a 17 Hornet in the Varmint model and it wasn't currently available. I replied a standard model would be ok and it wasn't available either. Then I asked if I could at least get a 527 action in the Hornet bolt face and was told it wasn't available either. 3 or 4 months later I was notified that all 3 forms were now available so I bought all 3 knowing that the opportunity might never come my way again. I already own a 527 American in 22 Hornet which is incredible and wanted another 527.

It had to be the 17 because I was already addicted to the caliber and I had spent a couple years regretting my choice of the Savage model 25 I owned in 17 Hornet. Talk about a shame. Savage had every opportunity to build the model 25 into a gem and instead created a plastic broom handle with a trigger. The only thing that gun had going for it was it's accuracy in spite of their lack luster attempt.

My 527 Varmint in 17 Hornet is everything the Savage could have been and then some. I switched out to a Boyd's thumbhole on it and it's stellar sitting on the prairie dog bench. The American version I purchased remains unfired in the box and I have yet to chamber a barrel for the action I just had to have. Purchasing all 3 pieces at one time was a tough pill to swallow but I certainly don't regret it now especially since there will be no more.

 

[danny]

every

In 2019 I was in position to purchase CZ at a discounted price. I asked for a 17 Hornet in the Varmint model and it wasn't currently available. I replied a standard model would be ok and it wasn't available either. Then I asked if I could at least get a 527 action in the Hornet bolt face and was told it wasn't available either. 3 or 4 months later I was notified that all 3 forms were now available so I bought all 3 knowing that the opportunity might never come my way again. I already own a 527 American in 22 Hornet which is incredible and wanted another 527.

It had to be the 17 because I was already addicted to the caliber and I had spent a couple years regretting my choice of the Savage model 25 I owned in 17 Hornet. Talk about a shame. Savage had every opportunity to build the model 25 into a gem and instead created a plastic broom handle with a trigger. The only thing that gun had going for it was it's accuracy in spite of their lack luster attempt.

My 527 Varmint in 17 Hornet is everything the Savage could have been and then some. I switched out to a Boyd's thumbhole on it and it's stellar sitting on the prairie dog bench. The American version I purchased remains unfired in the box and I have yet to chamber a barrel for the action I just had to have. Purchasing all 3 pieces at one time was a tough pill to swallow but I certainly don't regret it now especially since there will be no more.

I wish I had another 527 LH, but at the prices they now go for...not likely to happen.

I wonder if the 527 used goes for more than whatever replaced it, in new condition.

Danny