17 fireball vs 17 Remington

[Leveraction35]

I won a custom rifle and I’m considering these 2 cartridges. The rifle will be a dedicated nighttime coyote calling rifle…Shooting off a tripod with a maximum distance of 300 yards.

Which would you go with and why

 

[L.Sherm]

Have you or can you get dies and brass for both? That might be your deciding factor. What action you building off of?
Not sure of the 17 Remington factory ammo availability.

 

[Leveraction35]

Have you or can you get dies and brass for both? That might be your deciding factor. What action you building off of?
Not sure of the 17 Remington factory ammo availability.

I was looking at a 20” Bartlein 4groove barrel with a 700varmint contour on a Solus action

 

[varmintshooter]

I have a 17fb and think it would be a bit lite and the 17 rem wouldn't be much better at 300 yds. If it were me I would step up to a 20 cal at min.

 

[L.Sherm]

I was looking at a 20” Bartlein 4groove barrel with a 700varmint contour on a Solus action

If you want a repeater 17 Remington would be a better option unless you can find fireball metal.

 

[JB10]

I wanted to build a 17fb off a r700 action but did not look promising as a repeater. Thought 17 Remington after that till i was looking for a barrel. So i built a 20 practical. If the person building the rifle can make a 17 fireball a repeater and feeds properly let me know cuz i want one. I did not put much effort into it when i was wanting one

 

[ELR LVR]

If you want a repeater 17 Remington would be a better option unless you can find fireball metal.

What he said for your intended purpose, and it's a pretty standard case.
Be aware the 17 Rem is about as big of a case as you can go and still have things work well together
But I found it coppers quickly due to the speeds, might have to clean every 20-30 rnds.
For higher volume shooting and not having to clean as often, ...something smaller that drives a 25 grainer at about 3800 is better
I guess you could load down the 17 Rem too but I never tried that.
The 17 Rem has great trajectory to 300 yds also.

 

[swd]

I own both 17MKIV which is the wildcat equivalent of the 17 FB and 17 REM. Both are great cartridges but the 17 Rem has noticeably more power. Neither are forgiving on coyotes. You need a good behind the shoulder shot off of hard bone.

 

[Leveraction35]

If you want a repeater 17 Remington would be a better option unless you can find fireball metal.

That makes a lot of sense with the weird case on the fireball. I guess I will ask the gunsmith who’s building the rifle if he thinks that would be an issue. I’m getting a Solus action and a Bartlein barrel that he’ll reem to whatever cartridge I go with. I’ll ask about the feeding though

 

[SecondsCount]

@Leveraction35

In your previous thread, you mentioned that you do not reload. Is that still a factor in your decision?

 

[Leveraction35]

I personally don’t load yet, but I can have family load them up for me and learn. Then get my own setup

 

[Hotshot]

I have tried all of this stuff over the years. My advice, consider 204R. Buy ammo off the shelf, feeds well, performs better at 300 yards.

 

[L.Sherm]

I personally don’t load yet, but I can have family load them up for me and learn. Then get my own setup

I hope your getting a 9 twist. If coyotes are what you wanna shoot mainly consider atleast a 25 or even better a 30 grain bullet which means a custom.
I would see if you can find some factory 17 Remington ammo to start and brass or start now finding dies, brass and bullets.

 

[Leveraction35]

I have tried all of this stuff over the years. My advice, consider 204R. Buy ammo off the shelf, feeds well, performs better at 300 yards.

204 is on the list too

 

[Mark M.]

204 is on the list too

As much as I like the 17's, the 204R would definitely be my choice

 

[chester999]

I love my 17-357 Max that will push a 25gr bullet as fast as a 17 Rem, but I don't consider it a coyote gun. I have seen a coyote run off like it was never hit, with a 4" splash wound on it shoulder. The bullet disintegrating on impact with no penetration.
Sorry, to your question, it would be the 17 Rem.

 

[L.Sherm]

I gotta believe a 17 Remington with a 30 gr bullet has got to be close with a 204 and a 32 in velocity.

 

[Tommie]

I’m a 17 caliber fan.

Do a 204.

 

[Blaster 1]

I’m a 17 calibet fan.

Do a 204.

I had two 17rem when barrels went south built 20practicals now I have 4 brass is easy to form

 

[Leveraction35]

I had two 17rem when barrels went south built 20practicals now I have 4 brass is easy to form

I love the 20Prac. But it’s a bad route for me to take being that I don’t handload yet