1148 Remington 20 gage

[ebb]

I neighbor gave me his 20 gage 1148 and I already have my uncles 12 gage 1148. The 20 has been neglected a little and the receiver and barrel have some rust. Not bad but it doesn't look as nice as the 12. I told him I would oil and rub with brass wool. He told me that there was a solution that you could spray on that would eliminate the rust. He thinks he saw it in the American Rifleman. Have any of you heard of this? I had 2 active rounds loaded in the magazine and it would not fir one of them as the plastic had degraded so bad the prime was pushed forward and only got a very light hit. I found some federal #7 high brass long range duck loads and it was %100 with them and kicks way worse than any 2o I can remember.

 

[shortgrass]

The 1148 is a recoil operated shotgun. Chances are, the bronze friction piece is worn out. That's why recoil is so stout. If you are not familiar with recoil operated guns, you need to find a gunsmith that is! Using a recoil operated gun with a worn out friction piece will beat it to death. The links that extend from the bolt carrier to the bolt return spring are pressed sheet metal. They won't take much of a beating before they bend. After they are bent, they are 'fatigued', and if straightened won't stay that way and they will bend again in short order. The only cure is to install new links, and they're as rare as chicken lips! They last 20g 1148 I worked on needed a new friction piece. I ended up making one, as I could not find a usable one from the used parts dealers. There were no new ones to be found, then. Maybe now, but I don't know. I would just have to look. Rem model 11 20g shotguns are they same way, no new friction piece to be found (last time I looked).

 

[KMart]

I had a 16 ga 1148 when i was growing up. It would kill on one end and cripple on the other.

 

[rockrat]

Grandad lent me his 12ga 11-48 to quail hunt with. I suspect he knew it shot 2ft to the right @20yds!!! Finally gave it back and bought a Fox B double barrel and my bird count went way up!!

 

[ebb]

The gun doesn't look as if it has been shot much, does the friction piece get worn for use ?

 

[shortgrass]

The gun doesn't look as if it has been shot much, does the friction piece get worn for use ?

Yes. The friction piece is the bronze that 'rides' the magazine tube in front of the recoil spring/friction ring assembly. When the gun is fired, recoil begins and the bronze piece is squeezed against the magazine tube acting like a brake, to slow the action of the barrel moving rear wards.

 

[ebb]

I will look ! thanks

 

[Knotwild]

I have a 28ga 1148and a model 11. They were my grandfather's. Correct me if I am wrong, but the friction sleeve was composed of two parts - a ring on top and the split sleeve. The top ring was designed to be turned with the flat side to ride against the sleeve with little to no friction applied for low brass. The other side was concave so it forced the split ring to grip the magazine tube and was to be used for high brass shells.

Also you are not to use much oil on the magazine tube because it negated the friction.

Many people who complained of recoil weren't using the system correctly.

 

[kendog]

Slightly off topic, but I have a 1148 16 ga in the shop right now with busted ejector. Ejector is brazed to barrel extension, and the original "fix" was to "install new barrel assy" (per Remington's service manual). Barrels are long gone and parts are unobtainium. Anyone have a fix they have worked out?