1/4 MOA Sabatti Rifle Claim -- Tunnel Test

[RickyK]

No use building a F Class gun. Just buy this .

 

[SecondsCount]

For $2500, I would have pretty high expectations for that rifle to shoot well.

 

[LHSmith]

One would think this guy with all his resources available to him (especially a tunnel) would have learned some BR basics -one of which is to line up the rear bag with the front rest. Apparently he thinks he is using an Edgewood with twisted ears.
Also, that is not my definition of "same hole" and why 3 shot group evaluation?

 

[joshb]

I think that’s a pretty nice result, considering how he was shooting. I’ve seen some American Companies charging a lot more for “1/4 MOA” rifles. With the pricing for parts these days and the wait times, I can see people buying them.

 

[M-61]

I don’t consider a 3 shot group to really be a standard to show accuracy. I’ve shot some unreal 3 shot groups in any of my BR rifles, and only wished it ended there. And it is not necessarily shot 4or 5 that screwed up the group.
Worse actually than the 1,000 foot quarter mile drag strips. It’s good but the race in my mind is not over yet.
I wondered about what he called ‘ mirage’.
I never shot in a tunnel but is mirage a problem in them?
It’s a nice rifle but not for me.

 

[jds holler]

I find it impressive given the "store bought ammo" thing. jd

 

[6MMsteve]

20 shots into the bugs hole

 

[M-61]

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[M-61]

Not me: 5 shots Savage 6BR. LRPV all stock
Lapua ammo 100 yards . No tunnel.
Pic above . Screwed up posting 2 copies

 

[LHSmith]

I don’t consider a 3 shot group to really be a standard to show accuracy. I’ve shot some unreal 3 shot groups in any of my BR rifles, and only wished it ended there. And it is not necessarily shot 4or 5 that screwed up the group.
Worse actually than the 1,000 foot quarter mile drag strips. It’s good but the race in my mind is not over yet.
I wondered about what he called ‘ mirage’.
I never shot in a tunnel but is mirage a problem in them?
It’s a nice rifle but not for me.

According to Gene Beggs -even in a well designed tunnel the conditions have to be monitored very closely to minimize mirage. FWIW I blame all my flyers on mirage too.

 

[FNSafari]

One would think this guy with all his resources available to him (especially a tunnel) would have learned some BR basics -one of which is to line up the rear bag with the front rest. Apparently he thinks he is using an Edgewood with twisted ears.
Also, that is not my definition of "same hole" and why 3 shot group evaluation?

God, why is he shooting for accuracy off of a clumsy, wobbly bi-pod. All that equipment and he doesn't have a Lenzi to go with his Sabatti? Does the Sabbati accuracy guarantee stipulate how the rifle is stabilized when shot? Bet they don't anticipate it being shot of this kind of setup.

 

[FNSafari]

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Nice group, but that angled horizontal will destroy your day in a score shoot.

 

[dryhumor]

I’d be curious to see it shoot under my conditions 99% of the time- off two bags with a 1/2” of heartbeat….

 

[M-61]

Nice group, but that angled horizontal will destroy your day in a score shoot.

Sure. This was shots number 5,6,7,8,9
First 4 were to sight in the scope. Box of Lapua as had no BR brass.
So brand new factory sporting rifle, new scope, factory ammo. I’m not showing off merely trying to make a point about what I think is excellent for everything factory. Long ways from that $2500 also.
He’s a salesman so I don’t think I was being rude.
I have a couple of bench rifles in 30BR that produce’nice’ groups.

 

[M-61]

According to Gene Beggs -even in a well designed tunnel the conditions have to be monitored very closely to minimize mirage. FWIW I blame all my flyers on mirage too.

Never knew that, thanks. I wonder where the mirage originates from but then again I always think of a tunnel as under ground.
Never saw nor shot in one. If it’s above ground and like steel huts tied together I can’t imagine the heat.
But I am funny with lots of things. Range close to me has a severe angled roof (I assume to stop all rifles not firing over the berm) but one time shooting there was it for me, the noise was unbearable.

 

[M-61]

Nice group, but that angled horizontal will destroy your day in a score shoot.

Also,I’ve never seen a factory off the shelf with factory ammo shoot a group like that.
And that’s a ballsy statement.
I did state that this a total of 9 shots with the 4 sightings and 5 in the group. My idea of breaking a barrel in, although I ran a dry patch through the barrel first.

 

[Lone Hunter]

God, why is he shooting for accuracy off of a clumsy, wobbly bi-pod. All that equipment and he doesn't have a Lenzi to go with his Sabatti? Does the Sabbati accuracy guarantee stipulate how the rifle is stabilized when shot? Bet they don't anticipate it being shot of this kind of setup.

You didn’t catch the term “ TACTICAL “ when he was describing the first rifle. You can’t be tactical if you used a bench rest. Gotta shoot off barricades or bipods to be tactical.lol.. I like to shoot off bipods when I’m shooting because that’s mostly the way I shoot but agree with you that he needs to use a rest.
I like the looks of both rifles and the action. Seem to geared toward f class shooting.

 

[holstil]

Looks good to me.

 

[Scalloper]

I saw a Sabatti video last week saying they have shot 50,000+ shots through a 270 wsm while still maintaining good accuracy

 

[FNSafari]

You didn’t catch the term “ TACTICAL “ when he was describing the first rifle. You can’t be tactical if you used a bench rest. Gotta shoot off barricades or bipods to be tactical.lol.. I like to shoot off bipods when I’m shooting because that’s mostly the way I shoot but agree with you that he needs to use a rest.
I like the looks of both rifles and the action. Seem to geared toward f class shooting.

I guess I did miss that. I can't imagine getting 100 meter 1/4moa accuracy from his setup unless a fluke tho.