Ar 15 barrel at Urbarrifleman
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I have 2 Wilson AR barrels, both 1:8 twist and chambered in 223 Wylde. One is on a service rifle upper that I bought new from Rock River over 20 years ago. I used it to win Service Rifle the Indiana State championship in 2004. The other barrel is a couple years older. Pretty sure its a 22", and it STILL shoots tiny little bugholes with everything from 40gr NBT to 70 and 75gr pills. If someone is looking for an accurate 22cal barrel for an AR, Wilson is THE way to go IMHO.
urbanrifleman
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Wilson also made all the Armalite barrels. Like every single one.
I did not know that. I've never actually used an "original" AR, but obviously that would indicate that they've been at it for a day or two...
Not sure if that's good or bad, though. I've seen a few that had bbl problems over the years. Overall though, everybody has a dud from time to time in high production stuff like that. Again overall, I'd say they were above average, at least. Especially compared to some of the cheapo ar crap that is out there.
7mm TCU!!
Have an Armalite bolt gun in 308 that has grouped in high 1's for me. Probably a fluke, but it will hold under 3/4" consistently with 155 AMAX
Have an Armalite bolt gun in 308 that has grouped in high 1's for me. Probably a fluke, but it will hold under 3/4" consistently with 155 AMAX
Clearly an American answer!
It's and easy choice when you already own a bunch.
urbanrifleman
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I had a DPMS 308 that would also shoot in the 1s and it had a Wilson barrel.
And I have never heard any one badmouth Armalite (at least the Armalite from the 1990s, they may have sucked later on after they got bought).... that's a new one to me.
Overall, I think they are just like anyone...a bad one can get out but they make a good product. I can tell you about one that wouldn't shoot under about 4"-6" at 100 yards that was melonite treated from the factory. It was the crown that was causing the problem but with a melonite bbl, the fix is tougher than it sounds due to the surface treatment being very hard. Carbide would cut it but being at the edge of the muzzle, it wouldn't leave a good finish at all! Terrible, actually. I wound up setting up a tool post grinder to re crown it with. That worked pretty well but turned an easy job into a pretty big deal. Afterwards, it shot great and the customer is tickled with it now. You probably don't see many melonite treated bbls and since then, I'm always skeptical about touching them. So, ya might stick this in your cap in case ya run into one later is all.
I'll add...I don't think this was a Wilson problem as much as one related to melonite treatment. I guess it should've been caught by Armalite though. The edge of the crown almost looked melted away. It was ugly from the factory and is what it took to fix the gun..fwiw. It's a reason I have held off on having anything melonite treated since then.
If you took a factory built Colt M16 or M4, they were not very accurate out of the box. The military decided to modify them for higher accuracy and put some glass on top, as a Designated Marksman Rifle (DMR). The Mod 0 and 1 had 18" barrels, Mod H had the 16"I really don't know what those are.
Link to wiki on the subject
Picture of my Mk 12 Mod 1, that is not 100% clone correct, but close
That's a Douglas barrel and it shoots great.
brokeasajoke
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I have a post ban Armalite I'm contemplating replacing the barrel on. It has one of those pressed on post ban brakes that is not pinned. It's ok but I'm sure the A2 non free float handguard doesn't help.
urbanrifleman
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Should get some drawings to review this week. Going to do a standard 20 inch service rifle and a match rifle for up to 26 inch.
Liven The Dream
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White Oak did very good in this line .
Go for it .
As a long the time AR Service and match rifle shooter one thought?
Reamer Throat I worked with many Wylde ??? Chambered AR Barrels the throats ran all over the range .
jelenko
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Well, damn it. If it's .875 from the gas tenon to the muzzle, I'll just have to buy one or two.
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That's what I am thinking
urbanrifleman
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I need some help on this.
It appears that the "service rifle" is .875" under the handguard and the "match rifle" would be .950".
VA_XTC_Shooter
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incorrect
SR rules only state "no portion of the barrel forward of the rearward location of the gas block or front sight tenon shall have a diameter exceeding 0.750"
Under handguard, no diameter restrictions.
.875 and .936 gas block tenons, are on match rifle because of this rule.
Here is Krieger's SR profile https://kriegerbarrels.com/contours#ar15
urbanrifleman
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I marked up this Match RIFLE (space gun/varmint) drawing to be 1" to gas block, .875" gas block OD and .872" out to either 22"/24"/26".
urbanrifleman
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Got it.
So, what would be the OD under the gas block for service rifle? Just go 1"?
Highpower-FClass
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FWIW I measured two of my service rifle barrels and they are both 1" under the handguard
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