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Injury Caused by Powder Mistake -- 28.5 gr of Lever Evolution VS 28.5 gr LiL Gun

cavedweller60 said:
Well, I guess everyone that ever made a mistake driving and was involved in an accident should give up driving too...right? Mistakes happen, I have done some incredibly boneheaded things in my life, some that caused me injury but, I never once considered giving something up because of it. Some of us can learn from mistakes.
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Ah, yes, those "hold my beer and watch this" moments.
 
It’s a testament to the thoughtful design of modern firearms that it can blow up next to your face and most will live to tell about it. There’s a famous “affordable” 50 cal pipe-bomb rifle that failed spectacularly and nearly killed the man shooting it due to its poor design ejecting large pieces of the gun directly into his face and chest. This savage action, in contrast, is still largely together with the forces directed away from the shooter.
 
He who has never made a mistake, please step forward.

Reloading is a serious endeavor and needs to be undertaken with respect, competency, and focus. However, done properly, it is relatively safe compared to driving a car, especially around here. At least once a month, I have a near miss due to the idiot and careless drivers in this area. I am more concerned about them than the next pandemic.

In going on now 60 years in the shooting sports, I only ever saw one gun blow up. It was a 1911 45 ACP, and the guys was shooting next to me during a match. Fortunately, no one was injured. And yes, he was shooting reloads.

Hopefully such tales will encourage all of us to re-focus on safety.
 
cavedweller60 said:
Well, I guess everyone that ever made a mistake driving and was involved in an accident should give up driving too...right? Mistakes happen, I have done some incredibly boneheaded things in my life, some that caused me injury but, I never once considered giving something up because of it. Some of us can learn from mistakes.
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While I agree with your response in general, the difference in my mind is that you are (or should be) 100% in control of your reloading routine. Granted I have done many stupid things over my 60 years. Extra caution is ALWAYS exercised while reloading. I agree with DGP4 in regards to his comment of not being mean spirited. My comment was also not meant to be derogatory or mean.
I am very happy that the OP was not seriously injured.
 
Big_Daddy said:
While I agree with your response in general, the difference in my mind is that you are (or should be) 100% in control of your reloading routine. Granted I have done many stupid things over my 60 years. Extra caution is ALWAYS exercised while reloading. I agree with DGP4 in regards to his comment of not being mean spirited. My comment was also not meant to be derogatory or mean.
I am very happy that the OP was not seriously injured.
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While I also agree with your sentiment that you should be 100% in control of your reloading, you should be 1000% in control of your vehicle. As I said, people make mistakes but, that doesn't mean that if one is made, you should automatically give up the activity you were participating in.
 
As a hypothetical, what if a piece of that exploding rifle killed a shooter near him at the range?

Just like with a car, we are not in a bubble all by ourselves. When our mistakes can injure or kill someone else, we have a higher standard of responsibility for our actions.
 
rem40xb1 said:
A costly and dangerous mistake
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Thanks for posting the reminder, loading and shooting really is a discipline where one small lapse of concentration can be deadly. Folks that make that mistake and post about it, are always ridiculed a certain amount. Don’t let that get to you. For those who are starting to reload, it’s a stark example of what can happen when things go wrong. That even a long time loader can get complacent and make a mistake. For the guys with years of experience, it’s more of a reminder to not drop your guard. Lessons for everyone.

When something like this happens, those in the know, those with experience, want to make a little side wager. Which heals first, the physical injury or the flinch before pulling the trigger.

I got a year and/or 1000 rounds in the pool.;)

Thanks again
 
Evan said:
As a hypothetical, what if a piece of that exploding rifle killed a shooter near him at the range?

Just like with a car, we are not in a bubble all by ourselves. When our mistakes can injure or kill someone else, we have a higher standard of responsibility for our actions.
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Id say "hypothetical" shit happens. I bet he'd never make that same mistake twice. My one buddy that gave up target shooting ended up getting into paragliding which he ended up loosing 3-4 fingers doing. Maybe the OP is safer to keep reloading and shooting and learn from his mistake.
 
It takes guts to post this and open oneself to the internet world.

If it had been me, I would not have posted it, and I would have spent the afternoon cleaning my pants out. And I would not have told anyone but my wife, cause she knows I do dumb things on occasion and has stuck with me.
 
oneraggedhole said:
Id say "hypothetical" shit happens. I bet he'd never make that same mistake twice. My one buddy that gave up target shooting ended up getting into paragliding which he ended up loosing 3-4 fingers doing. Maybe the OP is safer to keep reloading and shooting and learn from his mistake.
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My point was there’s a difference between killing or maiming yourself and killing or maiming someone near you who had nothing to do with it. “Shit happens” doesn’t hold water legally or with the family of the person killed by another’s mistake. It doesn’t absolve them of criminal or civil responsibility for their mistake.
 
Glad to see the damage wasn't any worse than it was .
I had a close call many years ago.
Had a double charge when loading for 44 Mag.
Lucky I was shooting a TC Contender , the pistol almost came out of my hand but held together.
Happened when I had somebody helping me,they were charging the cases with powder and I was not visually looking into them .
Lesson learned.
 
The reason I posted these pictures was to show what can happen if you make a mistake with fast burning powder--I have been reloading for 60 years and I have never had a serious problem until now--But all those years reloading mean nothing if you screw up--I never had pistol powder around until the last year for subsonic loads--I may not have it around much longer-- It's not the powders fault it is mine for not paying attention and being over confident--The mistake cost me 2 thousand dollars plus with the emergency room visit
 
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