Squib load...bullet stuck

[jxb]

It shouldn't have to be said, but always fully inspect all brass, new or otherwise before reloading. New brass is made on machines which are made and maintained by people, people make mistakes...

Sure it should have been caught before QA and certainly in QA, but still when we're behind the gun we're reloading for, best to as we love to say in IT, trust but verify ;-)

 

[ELR LVR]

I bought a set of three different diameter brass rods for knocking bullets out of barrels. Thankfully the only time I have used them was in the reloading room when trying to determine seating in the lands.

Dewey Rods are coated stainless.
I've pounded a few bullets out with them with no issues, not even to the threads on the cleaning rod.
Spray some lube in the bore and take it a little bit at a time, don't rush it
With your larger caliber this would require a larger .308 sized rod

 

[DShortt]

How did the primer flash/gas move the bullet if there wasn't a flash hole. Primer would have unseat, gas flow around case after bullet/case was pushed forward until contact with rifling. Than bullet slides several inches forward as case moves rearward(bullet released after bullet was probably seated deeper by barrel contact).

Had to think about that. If the flash hole literally did not exist, when fired the pressure from the primer has nowhere to go except to drive the primer out of the pocket.
Well. There's a bolt head in the way. Pressure has to vent somewhere. Cartridge wrinkles up before the bolt is driven out of the action.
Not an experiment I'd want to test, but that scenario makes sense.

BUT. That leaves no explanation for how the bullet got several inches down the barrel.


Something rotten in Denmark.

Missing details.

My money is on a very anemic charge, likely due to bridging in the powder thrower and the powder used behaves badly in below minimum charge weights. Unpredictable outcomes in such situations.

 

[oneriver]

So, there was nothing that exploded but the primer and the case has no hole for the primer gas to reach the powder but the bullet is 1/3 of the way up the barrel? Nope. Take a brass rod and knock the bullet out.

Maybe I was hallucinating it huh... bullet was pushed out by a brass rod by a gunsmith who told me my powder was probably bad and get rid of it, he didn't notice the lack of flash hole in the case.

 

[oneriver]

Had to think about that. If the flash hole literally did not exist, when fired the pressure from the primer has nowhere to go except to drive the primer out of the pocket.
Well. There's a bolt head in the way. Pressure has to vent somewhere. Cartridge wrinkles up before the bolt is driven out of the action.
Not an experiment I'd want to test, but that scenario makes sense.

BUT. That leaves no explanation for how the bullet got several inches down the barrel.


Something rotten in Denmark.

Missing details.

My money is on a very anemic charge, likely due to bridging in the powder thrower and the powder used behaves badly in below minimum charge weights. Unpredictable outcomes in such situations.

Let's see missing details hummm...no flash hole, wrinkled neck, lots of unburnt powder and bullet lodged in barrel pushed out with brass rod... what more could you want?

 

[DShortt]

Maybe I was hallucinating it huh... bullet was pushed out by a brass rod by a gunsmith who told me my powder was probably bad and get rid of it, he didn't notice the lack of flash hole in the case.

Let's see missing details hummm...no flash hole, wrinkled neck, lots of unburnt powder and bullet lodged in barrel pushed out with brass rod... what more could you want?

Yeah. Exactly.
None of that scenario makes any sense at all.
Ever slug a barrel with a soft lead slug?

And your copper jacketed bullet just 'pushed out' with a brass rod. Couldn't possibly be that you didn't catch a problem and got lucky when that problem showed up.
So.... why didn't you notice that there was no flash hole when you loaded that case if you did nothing wrong?

OK then.

I'm out.

 

[Fire Dog]

And if you have to? From another post on this forum.

BULLET KNOCK-OUT SET

Remove lodged bullets from your gun without ruining your cleaning rod with these solid brass bullets. Shop our Bullet Knock-Out Set today!

www.boretech.com

I have one of those that lives in my range tool box and though I have not needed it myself I have on several occasions been able to help others. Quite inexpensive and has several sizes that just screw into a cleaning rod. They are made of brass and have a small depression in the centre to align with the nose of the stuck projectile.
Works a treat…!
BTW: Both the Boretech set and the Creedmore Sport set look like they came out of the same factory with the Boretech one 50 cents cheaper..

 

[trebor244]

Recently had a squib load at the range... case neck wrinkled, bullet stuck in barrel... turns out the brand new Nosler brass .35 Whelen had No Flash Hole. Trying to contact Nosler was an exercise of frustration, they are not answering any of their numbers and the contact information won't accept my email as valid yet I opened an account with that same address?? What's going on with Nosler anybody know?

make sure you use a brass rod so you won't scratch the lands and grooves of the barrel. Try using a hammer to drive the projectile out (usually insert the brass rod in the muzzle and back the point thru the forcing cone of the barrel. If that fails to clear it, you can "jury rig" a long-jawed clamp to press it back out.
Good luck

 

[nmkid]

What a unique situation.

 

[clowdis]

There is also a big chunk missing out of the rim, presumably hard to extract?

 

[pdog2225]

Recently had a squib load at the range... case neck wrinkled, bullet stuck in barrel... turns out the brand new Nosler brass .35 Whelen had No Flash Hole. Trying to contact Nosler was an exercise of frustration, they are not answering any of their numbers and the contact information won't accept my email as valid yet I opened an account with that same address?? What's going on with Nosler anybody know?

I remember reading in the past about a stuck bullet in a rifle barrel.... The answer was to prime a case, put a small charge of powder (ex bullseye), a piece of tissue,chamber and fire it. All safety rules apply!

 

[gdbleb]

I never had a bullet jammed way down the barrel. Should you drive it forward - pushing on the flat base or rearward - pushing on the tip? Or just the shortest distance to get it out?

 

[oneriver]

Yeah. Exactly.
None of that scenario makes any sense at all.
Ever slug a barrel with a soft lead slug?

And your copper jacketed bullet just 'pushed out' with a brass rod. Couldn't possibly be that you didn't catch a problem and got lucky when that problem showed up.
So.... why didn't you notice that there was no flash hole when you loaded that case if you did nothing wrong?

OK then.

I'm out.

Jeeze.... yes I did something wrong... I didn't notice that the hole was missing.

 

[Dave in WI]

I made one of these once to get a stuck bullet out. Pumped it out w/grease gun. Worked perfect. But, muzzle was already threaded.

 

[BuffaloBill]

I made one of these once to get a stuck bullet out. Pumped it out w/grease gun. Worked perfect. But, muzzle was already threaded.

You beat me to it. This exactly what I was going to suggest.

 

[DShortt]

OP said the gunsmith pushed it out with a brass rod.

 

[M-61]

Something rotten in Denmark.

Missing details.

My money is on a very anemic charge, likely due to bridging in the powder thrower and the powder used behaves badly in below minimum charge weights. Unpredictable outcomes in such situations

Yes.
Missing details, I’m out before I’m in.

 

[M-61]

I remember reading in the past about a stuck bullet in a rifle barrel.... The answer was to prime a case, put a small charge of powder (ex bullseye), a piece of tissue,chamber and fire it. All safety rules apply!

Worst advice I’ve read in sometime.
Your last sentence negates everything you wrote.

 

[450BM]

No flash hole happens. Military may call it a "Spit Hole" View attachment 1670956

But the bullet is still in the case but the op said his was a 1/3 of the way up he barrel.

With that said, I’m not sure I believe the above picture and explanation. But I’m just a shooter so what do I know…

 

[243winxb]

But the bullet is still in the case but the op said his was a 1/3 of the way up he barrel.

With that said, I’m not sure I believe the above picture and explanation. But I’m just a shooter so what do I know…

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Saami----​

SQUIB LOAD - A cartridge or shell which produces projectile velocity and sound substantially lower than normal. May result in projectile and/or wads remaining in the bore.​

About a 1/3

If no flash hole, its hard to understand how there was bullet movement?
If case was smashed smaller, could the compressed air in the case pop the bullet out & send it into the barrel 1/3?

Very strange that the bullet moved??

I had a few 22-250 rounds fire the primer, with a correct flash hole. Some powder turned gold color, then stopped burning. There was NO BULLET MOVEMENT . Powder discontinued H450.