What scope did you use?
It was a Vortex Razor Gen II 4.5-27x56.
What scope did you use?
Same hereI used to be moa but I’m all mil scopes now.
If you stopped thinking moa is inches it would help. Moa and mils are angular measurements. Not linear. Neither is tied to a linear. Moa is not equivalent to inches.nmkid, really glad you are shooting. I tried mils but for me moa is natural and very easy to deal with. I would only go to mils if I had no other choice. Being in the trades, for years, it's been part of my language. Every thing i look at is in inches It's to late to teach this old dog new tricks.
I understand that. A click is still 1/4 or 1/8 of 1 moa. That is what I understand. For me, that is more easy to deal with after my experiences in life. I have no reason to change no matter anyone else's logic. But I welcome your view brother. MIl's do not make me shoot any better.If you stopped thinking moa is inches it would help. Moa and mils are angular measurements. Not linear. Neither is tied to a linear. Moa is not equivalent to inches.
If you need to make corrections you use the reticle like a ruler and make them. Your reticle says you are 4 moa low and 3 moa right then you come up 4 moa and left 3 moa. No inches. Same with mils.
One of the biggest ball and chains around your ankle is thinking moa is inches. I taught long range precision rifle classes and you could see the lightbulb go off over people’s head when they figure it out and stop trying to convert anything to inches. They always said wow this is so much easier.
What trade are you in where you used angular measurements? Specifically MOA?nmkid, really glad you are shooting. I tried mils but for me moa, is natural and very easy to deal with. I would only go to mils if I had no other choice. Being in the trades, for years, it's been part of my language. Every thing i look at is in inches It's to late to teach this old dog new tricks.
I was a mason. And measurements where in parts of an inch not mils. Moa is not the point. Angles are converted to inches at different points, for me.What trade are you in where you used angular measurements? Specifically MOA?
I understand that. A click is still 1/4 or 1/8 of 1 moa. That is what I understand. For me, that is more easy to deal with after my experiences in life. I have no reason to change no matter anyone else's logic. But I welcome your view brother. MIl's do not make me shoot any better.
I understand and I agree, Mils are better because the point of reference is a circle and my point of reference as a mason was a square. So that is why I like inches. I'm not saying it's better, just for me it is. Every thing revolved around multiples of 6-8-10 or 3-4-5 and so on when building.Not trying to talk you out of moa but explain to you and anyone else that says “I think in inches” that that’s flawed logic and has nothing to do with the actual use of a scope. A click in mil is 1/10. Does that help? lol
Again not trying to make you change but just trying to show you and anyone else who may read this that it’s a flawed thought process when using scopes.
For long distance shooting it's actually more about ffp and a graduated reticle in order to make timely wind call adjustments, and these are primarily available in mils. While moa and mil are both angular measures, engineering and math use mils (radians) because it is simply a ratio and applies the same whether mm, inches, yards, meters, etc; whereas moa requires the translation from degrees to distance is known.
I understand and I agree, Mils are better because the point of reference is a circle and my point of reference as a mason was a square. So that is why I like inches. I'm not saying it's better, just for me it is.
You are not going to convert me. An arc is not a straight line, I get it.No idea what you are talking about with circle and square. That sounds like something you have in your head as I never heard it but someday when you discover mils or moa have nothing to do with inches you will say “Ah that’s what he was talking about”. I know I could get you to say that in one range day.
Not trying to convert you to mils but show how both mils and moa are the same. Moa is not a straight line. It is an arc also. Hence both being angular.You are not going to convert me. An arc is not a straight line, I get it.